[New: openFATE 311284] Use .DEB as packaging system
Feature added by: Kim Banga (nomadewolf) Feature #311284, revision 1 Title: Use .DEB as packaging system openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Kim Banga (nomadewolf) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: There are many things i don't like in SuSE, but what drove me away was the RPM packaging system. It works very well... until you start removing stuff... Can't use an OS with such a flaw, when there an easy solution. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/311284
Feature changed by: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) Feature #311284, revision 2 Title: Use .DEB as packaging system openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Kim Banga (nomadewolf) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: There are many things i don't like in SuSE, but what drove me away was the RPM packaging system. It works very well... until you start removing stuff... Can't use an OS with such a flaw, when there an easy solution. + Discussion: + #1: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2011-02-13 00:46:24) + Yep, zypper rm package. Files gone. I'm sure this is part of some + larger rpm vs deb flame war, but rather unspecific. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/311284
Feature changed by: Kim Banga (nomadewolf) Feature #311284, revision 3 Title: Use .DEB as packaging system openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Kim Banga (nomadewolf) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: There are many things i don't like in SuSE, but what drove me away was the RPM packaging system. It works very well... until you start removing stuff... Can't use an OS with such a flaw, when there an easy solution. Discussion: #1: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2011-02-13 00:46:24) Yep, zypper rm package. Files gone. I'm sure this is part of some larger rpm vs deb flame war, but rather unspecific. + #2: Kim Banga (nomadewolf) (2011-02-13 17:05:09) (reply to #1) + No flame war. I had to move away from SuSE as it becomes unusable after + a while. If i just install stuff it works fine. But i wan't to remove + the stuff i don't need. And anyone who does that in SuSE ends up + discovering what i did... I like SuSE, and it was my distro for many + years. But i got sick of having to re-install it every 6 months... I + moved o Linux Mint, and i can install/uninstall everything i want how + many times i want, and never had a single problem with that. rpm is not + as good as deb, and that's a fact. You can call it flame wars. But + that's just an excuse not to improve... If rpm was better, i would + support rpm. But it isn't. + Since i stopped using rpm based distros, my problems with linux ended. + Maybe i'll make a SuSE based using .DEB myself, and then people can + choose and judge themselves. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/311284
Feature changed by: Tom Zöhner (zoehneto) Feature #311284, revision 4 Title: Use .DEB as packaging system openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Kim Banga (nomadewolf) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: There are many things i don't like in SuSE, but what drove me away was the RPM packaging system. It works very well... until you start removing stuff... Can't use an OS with such a flaw, when there an easy solution. Discussion: #1: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2011-02-13 00:46:24) Yep, zypper rm package. Files gone. I'm sure this is part of some larger rpm vs deb flame war, but rather unspecific. #2: Kim Banga (nomadewolf) (2011-02-13 17:05:09) (reply to #1) No flame war. I had to move away from SuSE as it becomes unusable after a while. If i just install stuff it works fine. But i wan't to remove the stuff i don't need. And anyone who does that in SuSE ends up discovering what i did... I like SuSE, and it was my distro for many years. But i got sick of having to re-install it every 6 months... I moved o Linux Mint, and i can install/uninstall everything i want how many times i want, and never had a single problem with that. rpm is not as good as deb, and that's a fact. You can call it flame wars. But that's just an excuse not to improve... If rpm was better, i would support rpm. But it isn't. Since i stopped using rpm based distros, my problems with linux ended. Maybe i'll make a SuSE based using .DEB myself, and then people can choose and judge themselves. + #3: Tom Zöhner (zoehneto) (2011-02-13 18:32:16) (reply to #2) + Please specify what your problem with uninstalling software is. BTW if + your problem is that uninstalling software doesn't remove the + dependencies that were installed with the package try using 'zypper rm + --clean-deps'. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/311284
Feature changed by: Martin Seidler (pistazienfresser) Feature #311284, revision 5 Title: Use .DEB as packaging system openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Kim Banga (nomadewolf) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: There are many things i don't like in SuSE, but what drove me away was the RPM packaging system. It works very well... until you start removing stuff... Can't use an OS with such a flaw, when there an easy solution. + Relations: + - 1-click uninstall (feature/id: 305305) Discussion: #1: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2011-02-13 00:46:24) Yep, zypper rm package. Files gone. I'm sure this is part of some larger rpm vs deb flame war, but rather unspecific. #2: Kim Banga (nomadewolf) (2011-02-13 17:05:09) (reply to #1) No flame war. I had to move away from SuSE as it becomes unusable after a while. If i just install stuff it works fine. But i wan't to remove the stuff i don't need. And anyone who does that in SuSE ends up discovering what i did... I like SuSE, and it was my distro for many years. But i got sick of having to re-install it every 6 months... I moved o Linux Mint, and i can install/uninstall everything i want how many times i want, and never had a single problem with that. rpm is not as good as deb, and that's a fact. You can call it flame wars. But that's just an excuse not to improve... If rpm was better, i would support rpm. But it isn't. Since i stopped using rpm based distros, my problems with linux ended. Maybe i'll make a SuSE based using .DEB myself, and then people can choose and judge themselves. #3: Tom Zöhner (zoehneto) (2011-02-13 18:32:16) (reply to #2) Please specify what your problem with uninstalling software is. BTW if your problem is that uninstalling software doesn't remove the dependencies that were installed with the package try using 'zypper rm --clean-deps'. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/311284
Feature changed by: Hans de Raad (hcderaad) Feature #311284, revision 6 Title: Use .DEB as packaging system openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Kim Banga (nomadewolf) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: There are many things i don't like in SuSE, but what drove me away was the RPM packaging system. It works very well... until you start removing stuff... Can't use an OS with such a flaw, when there an easy solution. Relations: - 1-click uninstall (feature/id: 305305) Discussion: #1: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2011-02-13 00:46:24) Yep, zypper rm package. Files gone. I'm sure this is part of some larger rpm vs deb flame war, but rather unspecific. #2: Kim Banga (nomadewolf) (2011-02-13 17:05:09) (reply to #1) No flame war. I had to move away from SuSE as it becomes unusable after a while. If i just install stuff it works fine. But i wan't to remove the stuff i don't need. And anyone who does that in SuSE ends up discovering what i did... I like SuSE, and it was my distro for many years. But i got sick of having to re-install it every 6 months... I moved o Linux Mint, and i can install/uninstall everything i want how many times i want, and never had a single problem with that. rpm is not as good as deb, and that's a fact. You can call it flame wars. But that's just an excuse not to improve... If rpm was better, i would support rpm. But it isn't. Since i stopped using rpm based distros, my problems with linux ended. Maybe i'll make a SuSE based using .DEB myself, and then people can choose and judge themselves. #3: Tom Zöhner (zoehneto) (2011-02-13 18:32:16) (reply to #2) Please specify what your problem with uninstalling software is. BTW if your problem is that uninstalling software doesn't remove the dependencies that were installed with the package try using 'zypper rm --clean-deps'. + #4: Hans de Raad (hcderaad) (2011-02-14 10:47:03) + Just in case, openSUSE is a RPM-based distro, as is clearly stated in + the wiki http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Zypper The arguments of this + architectural decision are clearly outlined here: + http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:RPM_sucks The beauty of the opensource + ecosystem is that one can choose his/her own distro to his/her liking. + If RPM distro's seem not to be your cup of tea, leave them be and move + along. Please dont waste time polluting featurerequestsystems by + starting a religious debate. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/311284
Feature changed by: Michal Marek (michal-m) Feature #311284, revision 7 Title: Use .DEB as packaging system - openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed + openSUSE Distribution: Rejected by Michal Marek (michal-m) + reject date: 2011-02-14 11:42:14 + reject reason: Pointless flamewar. Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Kim Banga (nomadewolf) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: There are many things i don't like in SuSE, but what drove me away was the RPM packaging system. It works very well... until you start removing stuff... Can't use an OS with such a flaw, when there an easy solution. Relations: - 1-click uninstall (feature/id: 305305) Discussion: #1: Jimmy Berry (boombatower) (2011-02-13 00:46:24) Yep, zypper rm package. Files gone. I'm sure this is part of some larger rpm vs deb flame war, but rather unspecific. #2: Kim Banga (nomadewolf) (2011-02-13 17:05:09) (reply to #1) No flame war. I had to move away from SuSE as it becomes unusable after a while. If i just install stuff it works fine. But i wan't to remove the stuff i don't need. And anyone who does that in SuSE ends up discovering what i did... I like SuSE, and it was my distro for many years. But i got sick of having to re-install it every 6 months... I moved o Linux Mint, and i can install/uninstall everything i want how many times i want, and never had a single problem with that. rpm is not as good as deb, and that's a fact. You can call it flame wars. But that's just an excuse not to improve... If rpm was better, i would support rpm. But it isn't. Since i stopped using rpm based distros, my problems with linux ended. Maybe i'll make a SuSE based using .DEB myself, and then people can choose and judge themselves. #3: Tom Zöhner (zoehneto) (2011-02-13 18:32:16) (reply to #2) Please specify what your problem with uninstalling software is. BTW if your problem is that uninstalling software doesn't remove the dependencies that were installed with the package try using 'zypper rm --clean-deps'. #4: Hans de Raad (hcderaad) (2011-02-14 10:47:03) Just in case, openSUSE is a RPM-based distro, as is clearly stated in the wiki http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Zypper The arguments of this architectural decision are clearly outlined here: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:RPM_sucks The beauty of the opensource ecosystem is that one can choose his/her own distro to his/her liking. If RPM distro's seem not to be your cup of tea, leave them be and move along. Please dont waste time polluting featurerequestsystems by starting a religious debate. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/311284
participants (1)
-
fate_noreply＠suse.de