[New: openFATE 313842] auto sleep on login screen with kdm
Feature added by: Philippe Baril Lecavalier (p_barill) Feature #313842, revision 1 Title: auto sleep on login screen with kdm openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Philippe Baril Lecavalier (p_barill) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Any multi-user machine is prone to spend a fair amount of time on the login screen. How come there are no power management settings for this situation? If a user leaves a computer unattended for a few minutes while logged in, it will go to sleep after some minutes. Not so if it stays on the login screen. In this case and with kdm, the user must manually "suspend to RAM", and know the difference between this and "suspend to disk". Besides, I observed that the procedure to initiate sleep on the kdm login screen is quite involved for someone with a low computer literacy: Click on menu > shutdown > hold suspend > select "suspend to RAM" Clicking on "suspend" defaults to hibernate (I think the default should be sleep, not hibernate). Personally, I don't mind. But it's involved enough that some people told me "I got to write that down". There are some ways to automatically logout users after some period of inactivity. This can be justified to avoid waste of network resources. Similarly, the idea of enabling "sleep after x minutes" on the login screen is to save power and avoid unnecessary wear. I do not dare annoy you with yet another default setting request, but a simple way to turn this on. This could be useful in a variety of environments, such as home computers and computer labs with low usage rates (and reduce cooling bills too!). Obviously I deduce little need for this on a single-user machine. The only time I see the login screen is when I boot. Thus my logoff=shutdown. This is primarily about kdm. This follows a discussion from the forum: http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/install-boot-logi... -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/313842
Feature changed by: Philippe Baril Lecavalier (p_barill) Feature #313842, revision 2 Title: auto sleep on login screen with kdm openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Philippe Baril Lecavalier (p_barill) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Any multi-user machine is prone to spend a fair amount of time on the login screen. How come there are no power management settings for this - situation? If a user leaves a computer unattended for a few minutes - while logged in, it will go to sleep after some minutes. Not so if it - stays on the login screen. In this case and with kdm, the user must - manually "suspend to RAM", and know the difference between this and - "suspend to disk". Besides, I observed that the procedure to initiate - sleep on the kdm login screen is quite involved for someone with a low - computer literacy: Click on menu > shutdown > hold suspend > select - "suspend to RAM" Clicking on "suspend" defaults to hibernate (I think - the default should be sleep, not hibernate). Personally, I don't mind. - But it's involved enough that some people told me "I got to write that - down". There are some ways to automatically logout users after some - period of inactivity. This can be justified to avoid waste of network - resources. Similarly, the idea of enabling "sleep after x minutes" on - the login screen is to save power and avoid unnecessary wear. I do not - dare annoy you with yet another default setting request, but a simple - way to turn this on. This could be useful in a variety of environments, - such as home computers and computer labs with low usage rates (and - reduce cooling bills too!). Obviously I deduce little need for this on - a single-user machine. The only time I see the login screen is when I - boot. Thus my logoff=shutdown. This is primarily about kdm. + situation? + If a user leaves a computer unattended for a few minutes while logged + in, it will go to sleep after some minutes. Not so if it stays on the + login screen. In this case and with kdm, the user must manually + "suspend to RAM", and know the difference between this and "suspend to + disk". + Besides, I observed that the procedure to initiate sleep on the kdm + login screen is quite involved for someone with a low computer + literacy: Click on menu > shutdown > hold suspend > select "suspend to + RAM" + Clicking on "suspend" defaults to hibernate (I think the default should + be sleep, not hibernate). Personally, I don't mind. But it's involved + enough that some people told me "I got to write that down". + There are some ways to automatically logout users after some period of + inactivity. This can be justified to avoid waste of network resources. + Similarly, the idea of enabling "sleep after x minutes" on the login + screen is to save power and avoid unnecessary wear of equipment. I do + not dare annoy you with yet another default setting request, but a + simple way to turn this on. + This could be useful in a variety of environments, such as home + computers and computer labs with low usage rates (and reduce cooling + bills too!). Obviously I deduce little need for this on a single-user + machine. The only time I see the login screen is when I boot. Thus my + logoff=shutdown. + I request this for kdm. This follows a discussion from the forum: http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/install-boot-logi... + (http:/forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/install-boot-login/477068-re-kde-login-screen-auto-sleep-option-post2477154.html) -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/313842
Feature changed by: Bruno Friedmann (bruno_friedmann) Feature #313842, revision 5 Title: auto sleep on login screen with kdm openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Philippe Baril Lecavalier (p_barill) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Any multi-user machine is prone to spend a fair amount of time on the login screen. How come there are no power management settings for this situation? If a user leaves a computer unattended for a few minutes while logged in, it will go to sleep after some minutes. Not so if it stays on the login screen. In this case and with kdm, the user must manually "suspend to RAM", and know the difference between this and "suspend to disk". Besides, I observed that the procedure to initiate sleep on the kdm login screen is quite involved for someone with a low computer literacy: Click on menu > shutdown > hold suspend > select "suspend to RAM" Clicking on "suspend" defaults to hibernate (I think the default should be sleep, not hibernate). Personally, I don't mind. But it's involved enough that some people told me "I got to write that down". There are some ways to automatically logout users after some period of inactivity. This can be justified to avoid waste of network resources. Similarly, the idea of enabling "sleep after x minutes" on the login screen is to save power and avoid unnecessary wear of equipment. I do not dare annoy you with yet another default setting request, but a simple way to turn this on. This could be useful in a variety of environments, such as home computers and computer labs with low usage rates (and reduce cooling bills too!). Obviously I deduce little need for this on a single-user machine. The only time I see the login screen is when I boot. Thus my logoff=shutdown. I request this for kdm. This follows a discussion from the forum: http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/install-boot-logi... (http:/forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/install-boot-login/477068-re-kde-login-screen-auto-sleep-option-post2477154.html) + Discussion: + #1: Bruno Friedmann (bruno_friedmann) (2012-08-13 16:35:35) + If this is a default then it's wrong in the sense that a kdm computer + could also a remote network accessible one, and then as to be always + up. And if you want to wake-up a suspended or hibernate computer, by + the network it become more tricky for the end-users. Most of modern + computer, if doing nothing are going to idle state and then try to be + the less aggressive as possible for energy consumption. (But well more + than suspended) + On your second point, by default using suspend is more secure than + sleep. Imagine you sleep your computer, but are not able to wake it + before the battery is fully empty -> your work is then trashed. There's + new generation of computer that are able to wake up once the battery is + low, and put the system on suspended state. Once this behaviour will be + safe at a certain percentage, then it could be the default. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/313842
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