Feature changed by: Robert Davies (robopensuse) Feature #305664, revision 3 Title: Server CD openSUSE-11.2: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Martin Schlander (cb400f) Interested: Cédric Heintz (ced117) + Interested: Robert Davies (robopensuse) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Providing an official openSUSE server cd - with some often used server software - and perhaps a lightweight window manager like icewm or similar - would be a great thing for a number of reasons. - openSUSE is generally considered a desktop centric distribution, providing a server cd would do a heck of a lot to highligt the excellent (home-)server qualities of openSUSE. - The few people that realize that the openSUSE DVD/netinstall actually offers text mode/server installation, are often discouraged by needing to download a full DVD, or do troublesome and slow http/ftp installation. - Server users are generally more technical people, it would be beneficial to attract more of these to the openSUSE project. - More people using openSUSE on home servers would likely have spill-over effects on SLES sales. - An openSUSE server cd, would be an excellent response to Ubuntu server edition and Microsoft Home Server. + Discussion: + #1: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:20:09) + Please Market as Server and Virtualisation CD. An option to simple + install as guest OS would have market appeal. As someone who does use + Netinstall CD on occasion, and consider a distro for SOHO servers, a + key point for this sector is a reliable upgrade, without re- + installation. Ubuntu offers LTS and point updates for their server + edition. It's not just the availability of a CD that makes them + attractive. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/?rm=feature_show&id=305664

Feature changed by: Stephan - (hidugmxde) Feature #305664, revision 5 Title: Server CD openSUSE-11.2: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Martin Schlander (cb400f) Interested: Cédric Heintz (ced117) Interested: Robert Davies (robopensuse) + Interested: Stephan - (hidugmxde) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Providing an official openSUSE server cd - with some often used server software - and perhaps a lightweight window manager like icewm or similar - would be a great thing for a number of reasons. - openSUSE is generally considered a desktop centric distribution, providing a server cd would do a heck of a lot to highligt the excellent (home-)server qualities of openSUSE. - The few people that realize that the openSUSE DVD/netinstall actually offers text mode/server installation, are often discouraged by needing to download a full DVD, or do troublesome and slow http/ftp installation. - Server users are generally more technical people, it would be beneficial to attract more of these to the openSUSE project. - More people using openSUSE on home servers would likely have spill-over effects on SLES sales. - An openSUSE server cd, would be an excellent response to Ubuntu server edition and Microsoft Home Server. Discussion: #1: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:20:09) Please Market as Server and Virtualisation CD. An option to simple install as guest OS would have market appeal. As someone who does use Netinstall CD on occasion, and consider a distro for SOHO servers, a key point for this sector is a reliable upgrade, without re- installation. Ubuntu offers LTS and point updates for their server edition. It's not just the availability of a CD that makes them attractive. #2: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:23:54) (reply to #1) A tuned version for Virtualised hardware not just 'badge' engineering was my intention. Making things simple and quick for folk in a hurry on Other OSes, would help build market share. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/?rm=feature_show&id=305664

Feature changed by: Martin Schlander (cb400f) Feature #305664, revision 9 Title: Server CD openSUSE-11.2: New Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Martin Schlander (cb400f) Description: Providing an official openSUSE server cd - with some often used server software - and perhaps a lightweight window manager like icewm or - similar - would be a great thing for a number of reasons. - openSUSE is - generally considered a desktop centric distribution, providing a server - cd would do a heck of a lot to highligt the excellent (home-)server - qualities of openSUSE. - The few people that realize that the openSUSE - DVD/netinstall actually offers text mode/server installation, are often - discouraged by needing to download a full DVD, or do troublesome and - slow http/ftp installation. - Server users are generally more technical - people, it would be beneficial to attract more of these to the openSUSE - project. - More people using openSUSE on home servers would likely have - spill-over effects on SLES sales. - An openSUSE server cd, would be an - excellent response to Ubuntu server edition and Microsoft Home Server. + similar - would be a great thing for a number of reasons. + * openSUSE is generally considered a desktop centric distribution, + providing a server cd would do a heck of a lot to highligt the + excellent (home-)server qualities of openSUSE. + * The few people that realize that the openSUSE DVD/netinstall actually + offers text mode/server installation, are often discouraged by needing + to download a full DVD, or do troublesome and slow http/ftp + installation. + * Server users are generally more technical people, it would be + beneficial to attract more of these to the openSUSE project. + * More people using openSUSE on home servers would likely have spill- + over effects on SLES sales. + * An openSUSE server cd, would be an excellent response to Ubuntu + server edition and Microsoft Home Server. Discussion: #1: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:20:09) Please Market as Server and Virtualisation CD. An option to simple install as guest OS would have market appeal. As someone who does use Netinstall CD on occasion, and consider a distro for SOHO servers, a key point for this sector is a reliable upgrade, without re- installation. Ubuntu offers LTS and point updates for their server edition. It's not just the availability of a CD that makes them attractive. #2: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:23:54) (reply to #1) A tuned version for Virtualised hardware not just 'badge' engineering was my intention. Making things simple and quick for folk in a hurry on Other OSes, would help build market share. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305664

Feature changed by: Stephan Kulow (coolo) Feature #305664, revision 12 Title: Server CD openSUSE-11.2: New Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Martin Schlander (cb400f) Description: Providing an official openSUSE server cd - with some often used server software - and perhaps a lightweight window manager like icewm or similar - would be a great thing for a number of reasons. * openSUSE is generally considered a desktop centric distribution, providing a server cd would do a heck of a lot to highligt the excellent (home-)server qualities of openSUSE. * The few people that realize that the openSUSE DVD/netinstall actually offers text mode/server installation, are often discouraged by needing to download a full DVD, or do troublesome and slow http/ftp installation. * Server users are generally more technical people, it would be beneficial to attract more of these to the openSUSE project. * More people using openSUSE on home servers would likely have spill- over effects on SLES sales. * An openSUSE server cd, would be an excellent response to Ubuntu server edition and Microsoft Home Server. Discussion: #1: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:20:09) Please Market as Server and Virtualisation CD. An option to simple install as guest OS would have market appeal. As someone who does use Netinstall CD on occasion, and consider a distro for SOHO servers, a key point for this sector is a reliable upgrade, without re- installation. Ubuntu offers LTS and point updates for their server edition. It's not just the availability of a CD that makes them attractive. #2: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:23:54) (reply to #1) A tuned version for Virtualised hardware not just 'badge' engineering was my intention. Making things simple and quick for folk in a hurry on Other OSes, would help build market share. #3: Birger Kollstrand (mrkane) (2009-03-09 15:22:51) I like the idea. It would be good to have a new openSUSE Server edition with the forthcomming YaST WEB managment tool in 11.2 I'd also love to see that this server has a "Home" focus. Make it easier for everyone to rune a openSUSE "Home" ser ver on a PC or an embedded NAS or similar. + #4: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-03-09 16:00:12) + Who wants to maintain that edition? + Who wants to define that edition? -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305664

Feature changed by: Michael Löffler (michl19) Feature #305664, revision 18 Title: Server CD - openSUSE-11.2: New + openSUSE-11.2: Evaluation Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Martin Schlander (cb400f) Description: Providing an official openSUSE server cd - with some often used server software - and perhaps a lightweight window manager like icewm or similar - would be a great thing for a number of reasons. * openSUSE is generally considered a desktop centric distribution, providing a server cd would do a heck of a lot to highligt the excellent (home-)server qualities of openSUSE. * The few people that realize that the openSUSE DVD/netinstall actually offers text mode/server installation, are often discouraged by needing to download a full DVD, or do troublesome and slow http/ftp installation. * Server users are generally more technical people, it would be beneficial to attract more of these to the openSUSE project. * More people using openSUSE on home servers would likely have spill- over effects on SLES sales. * An openSUSE server cd, would be an excellent response to Ubuntu server edition and Microsoft Home Server. Discussion: #1: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:20:09) Please Market as Server and Virtualisation CD. An option to simple install as guest OS would have market appeal. As someone who does use Netinstall CD on occasion, and consider a distro for SOHO servers, a key point for this sector is a reliable upgrade, without re- installation. Ubuntu offers LTS and point updates for their server edition. It's not just the availability of a CD that makes them attractive. #2: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:23:54) (reply to #1) A tuned version for Virtualised hardware not just 'badge' engineering was my intention. Making things simple and quick for folk in a hurry on Other OSes, would help build market share. #3: Birger Kollstrand (mrkane) (2009-03-09 15:22:51) I like the idea. It would be good to have a new openSUSE Server edition with the forthcomming YaST WEB managment tool in 11.2 I'd also love to see that this server has a "Home" focus. Make it easier for everyone to rune a openSUSE "Home" ser ver on a PC or an embedded NAS or similar. #4: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-03-09 16:00:12) Who wants to maintain that edition? Who wants to define that edition? #5: Alberto Passalacqua (albertop) (2009-03-09 17:05:05) Seems a good idea to me too. I found by chance some info on Windows Home Server, and I was wondering if it would be possible to do something similar with openSUSE. The discussion was started here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2009-03/msg00141.html Let's see how it evolves ;-) + #6: Michael Löffler (michl19) (2009-06-05 15:12:38) + Hmm, its challenging for a feature request if even the requester rates + it just desirable. From the voting and my understanding I thinkt that's + a thing which should be considered. But as coolo already mentioned, who + will maintain it, who will define it? Do we have a server edition + already in the OBS? -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305664

Feature changed by: Thomas Schmidt (digitaltomm) Feature #305664, revision 20 Title: Server CD openSUSE-11.2: Evaluation Priority Requester: Desirable Projectmanager: Neutral Requested by: Martin Schlander (cb400f) Description: Providing an official openSUSE server cd - with some often used server software - and perhaps a lightweight window manager like icewm or similar - would be a great thing for a number of reasons. * openSUSE is generally considered a desktop centric distribution, providing a server cd would do a heck of a lot to highligt the excellent (home-)server qualities of openSUSE. * The few people that realize that the openSUSE DVD/netinstall actually offers text mode/server installation, are often discouraged by needing to download a full DVD, or do troublesome and slow http/ftp installation. * Server users are generally more technical people, it would be beneficial to attract more of these to the openSUSE project. * More people using openSUSE on home servers would likely have spill- over effects on SLES sales. * An openSUSE server cd, would be an excellent response to Ubuntu server edition and Microsoft Home Server. Discussion: #1: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:20:09) Please Market as Server and Virtualisation CD. An option to simple install as guest OS would have market appeal. As someone who does use Netinstall CD on occasion, and consider a distro for SOHO servers, a key point for this sector is a reliable upgrade, without re- installation. Ubuntu offers LTS and point updates for their server edition. It's not just the availability of a CD that makes them attractive. #2: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:23:54) (reply to #1) A tuned version for Virtualised hardware not just 'badge' engineering was my intention. Making things simple and quick for folk in a hurry on Other OSes, would help build market share. #3: Birger Kollstrand (mrkane) (2009-03-09 15:22:51) I like the idea. It would be good to have a new openSUSE Server edition with the forthcomming YaST WEB managment tool in 11.2 I'd also love to see that this server has a "Home" focus. Make it easier for everyone to rune a openSUSE "Home" ser ver on a PC or an embedded NAS or similar. #4: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-03-09 16:00:12) Who wants to maintain that edition? Who wants to define that edition? - #5: Alberto Passalacqua (albertop) (2009-03-09 17:05:05) + #5: Unknown User (fate_noreply) (2009-03-09 17:05:05) Seems a good idea to me too. I found by chance some info on Windows Home Server, and I was wondering if it would be possible to do something similar with openSUSE. The discussion was started here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2009-03/msg00141.html Let's see how it evolves ;-) #6: Michael Löffler (michl19) (2009-06-05 15:12:38) Hmm, its challenging for a feature request if even the requester rates it just desirable. From the voting and my understanding I thinkt that's a thing which should be considered. But as coolo already mentioned, who will maintain it, who will define it? Do we have a server edition already in the OBS? #7: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-06-09 12:19:28) still looking for maintainer -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305664

Feature changed by: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) Feature #305664, revision 24 Title: Server CD Hackweek IV: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.2: Evaluation Priority Requester: Desirable Projectmanager: Neutral Requested by: Martin Schlander (cb400f) Description: Providing an official openSUSE server cd - with some often used server software - and perhaps a lightweight window manager like icewm or similar - would be a great thing for a number of reasons. * openSUSE is generally considered a desktop centric distribution, providing a server cd would do a heck of a lot to highligt the excellent (home-)server qualities of openSUSE. * The few people that realize that the openSUSE DVD/netinstall actually offers text mode/server installation, are often discouraged by needing to download a full DVD, or do troublesome and slow http/ftp installation. * Server users are generally more technical people, it would be beneficial to attract more of these to the openSUSE project. * More people using openSUSE on home servers would likely have spill- over effects on SLES sales. * An openSUSE server cd, would be an excellent response to Ubuntu server edition and Microsoft Home Server. Discussion: #1: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:20:09) Please Market as Server and Virtualisation CD. An option to simple install as guest OS would have market appeal. As someone who does use Netinstall CD on occasion, and consider a distro for SOHO servers, a key point for this sector is a reliable upgrade, without re- installation. Ubuntu offers LTS and point updates for their server edition. It's not just the availability of a CD that makes them attractive. #2: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:23:54) (reply to #1) A tuned version for Virtualised hardware not just 'badge' engineering was my intention. Making things simple and quick for folk in a hurry on Other OSes, would help build market share. #3: Birger Kollstrand (mrkane) (2009-03-09 15:22:51) I like the idea. It would be good to have a new openSUSE Server edition with the forthcomming YaST WEB managment tool in 11.2 I'd also love to see that this server has a "Home" focus. Make it easier for everyone to rune a openSUSE "Home" ser ver on a PC or an embedded NAS or similar. #4: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-03-09 16:00:12) Who wants to maintain that edition? Who wants to define that edition? #5: Unknown User (fate_noreply) (2009-03-09 17:05:05) Seems a good idea to me too. I found by chance some info on Windows Home Server, and I was wondering if it would be possible to do something similar with openSUSE. The discussion was started here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2009-03/msg00141.html Let's see how it evolves ;-) #6: Michael Löffler (michl19) (2009-06-05 15:12:38) Hmm, its challenging for a feature request if even the requester rates it just desirable. From the voting and my understanding I thinkt that's a thing which should be considered. But as coolo already mentioned, who will maintain it, who will define it? Do we have a server edition already in the OBS? #7: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-06-09 12:19:28) still looking for maintainer + #8: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2009-07-01 23:19:50) + #opensuse-server has been created to hopefully build a community around + this -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305664

Feature changed by: George Pantazis (gpant) Feature #305664, revision 26 Title: Server CD Hackweek IV: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.2: Evaluation Priority Requester: Desirable Projectmanager: Neutral Requested by: Martin Schlander (cb400f) Description: Providing an official openSUSE server cd - with some often used server software - and perhaps a lightweight window manager like icewm or similar - would be a great thing for a number of reasons. * openSUSE is generally considered a desktop centric distribution, providing a server cd would do a heck of a lot to highligt the excellent (home-)server qualities of openSUSE. * The few people that realize that the openSUSE DVD/netinstall actually offers text mode/server installation, are often discouraged by needing to download a full DVD, or do troublesome and slow http/ftp installation. * Server users are generally more technical people, it would be beneficial to attract more of these to the openSUSE project. * More people using openSUSE on home servers would likely have spill- over effects on SLES sales. * An openSUSE server cd, would be an excellent response to Ubuntu server edition and Microsoft Home Server. Discussion: #1: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:20:09) Please Market as Server and Virtualisation CD. An option to simple install as guest OS would have market appeal. As someone who does use Netinstall CD on occasion, and consider a distro for SOHO servers, a key point for this sector is a reliable upgrade, without re- installation. Ubuntu offers LTS and point updates for their server edition. It's not just the availability of a CD that makes them attractive. #2: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:23:54) (reply to #1) A tuned version for Virtualised hardware not just 'badge' engineering was my intention. Making things simple and quick for folk in a hurry on Other OSes, would help build market share. #3: Birger Kollstrand (mrkane) (2009-03-09 15:22:51) I like the idea. It would be good to have a new openSUSE Server edition with the forthcomming YaST WEB managment tool in 11.2 I'd also love to see that this server has a "Home" focus. Make it easier for everyone to rune a openSUSE "Home" ser ver on a PC or an embedded NAS or similar. #4: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-03-09 16:00:12) Who wants to maintain that edition? Who wants to define that edition? #5: Unknown User (fate_noreply) (2009-03-09 17:05:05) Seems a good idea to me too. I found by chance some info on Windows Home Server, and I was wondering if it would be possible to do something similar with openSUSE. The discussion was started here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2009-03/msg00141.html Let's see how it evolves ;-) #6: Michael Löffler (michl19) (2009-06-05 15:12:38) Hmm, its challenging for a feature request if even the requester rates it just desirable. From the voting and my understanding I thinkt that's a thing which should be considered. But as coolo already mentioned, who will maintain it, who will define it? Do we have a server edition already in the OBS? #7: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-06-09 12:19:28) still looking for maintainer #8: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2009-07-01 23:19:50) #opensuse-server has been created to hopefully build a community around this #9: Luc de Louw (delouw) (2009-07-12 14:35:48) IHMO this is not needed. On install just choose "minimal installation" (somthing like this) as package group and install any needed packes afterwards. If you got your custom selection just save it or clone the system with autoyast. As Coolo outlines: There must be a maintainer for this. If some persons (more than one person please) volunteers, why not. + #10: George Pantazis (gpant) (2009-07-12 22:41:02) + When I voted for this feature I thought this was about a Home Server in + the same league as Windows Home Server. + People that are going to install it on a real server would use a + netinstall or a special build through studio, they wouldnt care much + about a text only CD. + It would be interesting if this FATE had the goal to create something + like WHS that would use a lightweight WM, a special YaST Module that + will be easier to use by people that are not technical and would + utilize the new http access to YaST. It would require that most of the + YaST modules would have to hide the more advanced features (under a + Advanced Features tab?:-) and even provide new modules with + functionality specific to Home Servers for example setup Mediatomb and + Gallery2. +   -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305664

Feature changed by: Stephan Kulow (coolo) Feature #305664, revision 30 Title: Server CD Hackweek IV: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important - openSUSE-11.2: Evaluation + openSUSE-11.2: Rejected by Stephan Kulow (coolo) + reject date: 2009-08-12 11:07:13 + reject reason: no volunteer stepped up and it's not even clear what the + goal of this feature would be (see comments) Priority Requester: Desirable Projectmanager: Neutral Requested by: Martin Schlander (cb400f) Description: Providing an official openSUSE server cd - with some often used server software - and perhaps a lightweight window manager like icewm or similar - would be a great thing for a number of reasons. * openSUSE is generally considered a desktop centric distribution, providing a server cd would do a heck of a lot to highligt the excellent (home-)server qualities of openSUSE. * The few people that realize that the openSUSE DVD/netinstall actually offers text mode/server installation, are often discouraged by needing to download a full DVD, or do troublesome and slow http/ftp installation. * Server users are generally more technical people, it would be beneficial to attract more of these to the openSUSE project. * More people using openSUSE on home servers would likely have spill- over effects on SLES sales. * An openSUSE server cd, would be an excellent response to Ubuntu server edition and Microsoft Home Server. Discussion: #1: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:20:09) Please Market as Server and Virtualisation CD. An option to simple install as guest OS would have market appeal. As someone who does use Netinstall CD on occasion, and consider a distro for SOHO servers, a key point for this sector is a reliable upgrade, without re- installation. Ubuntu offers LTS and point updates for their server edition. It's not just the availability of a CD that makes them attractive. #2: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:23:54) (reply to #1) A tuned version for Virtualised hardware not just 'badge' engineering was my intention. Making things simple and quick for folk in a hurry on Other OSes, would help build market share. #3: Birger Kollstrand (mrkane) (2009-03-09 15:22:51) I like the idea. It would be good to have a new openSUSE Server edition with the forthcomming YaST WEB managment tool in 11.2 I'd also love to see that this server has a "Home" focus. Make it easier for everyone to rune a openSUSE "Home" ser ver on a PC or an embedded NAS or similar. #4: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-03-09 16:00:12) Who wants to maintain that edition? Who wants to define that edition? #5: Unknown User (fate_noreply) (2009-03-09 17:05:05) Seems a good idea to me too. I found by chance some info on Windows Home Server, and I was wondering if it would be possible to do something similar with openSUSE. The discussion was started here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2009-03/msg00141.html Let's see how it evolves ;-) #6: Michael Löffler (michl19) (2009-06-05 15:12:38) Hmm, its challenging for a feature request if even the requester rates it just desirable. From the voting and my understanding I thinkt that's a thing which should be considered. But as coolo already mentioned, who will maintain it, who will define it? Do we have a server edition already in the OBS? #7: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-06-09 12:19:28) still looking for maintainer #8: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2009-07-01 23:19:50) #opensuse-server has been created to hopefully build a community around this #9: Luc de Louw (delouw) (2009-07-12 14:35:48) IHMO this is not needed. On install just choose "minimal installation" (somthing like this) as package group and install any needed packes afterwards. If you got your custom selection just save it or clone the system with autoyast. As Coolo outlines: There must be a maintainer for this. If some persons (more than one person please) volunteers, why not. #10: George Pantazis (gpant) (2009-07-12 22:41:02) When I voted for this feature I thought this was about a Home Server in the same league as Windows Home Server. People that are going to install it on a real server would use a netinstall or a special build through studio, they wouldnt care much about a text only CD. It would be interesting if this FATE had the goal to create something like WHS that would use a lightweight WM, a special YaST Module that will be easier to use by people that are not technical and would utilize the new http access to YaST. It would require that most of the YaST modules would have to hide the more advanced features (under a Advanced Features tab?:-) and even provide new modules with functionality specific to Home Servers for example setup Mediatomb and Gallery2. -   #11: wilson coronado barrantes (wecb_xxx) (2009-08-04 19:31:20) I really feel uncomfortable with ubuntu server(i prefer opensuse is more robust and easy to manage, i feel opensuse is more like a linux server with a desktop on top), but we have to choose it because for 2 reason's: firts LTS and second is more more easy to install because is more easy to get a cd than a DVD. Opensuse must have a cd server. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305664

Feature changed by: Robert Davies (robopensuse) Feature #305664, revision 35 Title: Server CD Hackweek IV: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.2: Rejected by Stephan Kulow (coolo) reject date: 2009-08-12 11:07:13 reject reason: no volunteer stepped up and it's not even clear what the goal of this feature would be (see comments) Priority Requester: Desirable Projectmanager: Neutral Requested by: Martin Schlander (cb400f) Description: Providing an official openSUSE server cd - with some often used server software - and perhaps a lightweight window manager like icewm or similar - would be a great thing for a number of reasons. * openSUSE is generally considered a desktop centric distribution, providing a server cd would do a heck of a lot to highligt the excellent (home-)server qualities of openSUSE. * The few people that realize that the openSUSE DVD/netinstall actually offers text mode/server installation, are often discouraged by needing to download a full DVD, or do troublesome and slow http/ftp installation. * Server users are generally more technical people, it would be beneficial to attract more of these to the openSUSE project. * More people using openSUSE on home servers would likely have spill- over effects on SLES sales. * An openSUSE server cd, would be an excellent response to Ubuntu server edition and Microsoft Home Server. Discussion: #1: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:20:09) Please Market as Server and Virtualisation CD. An option to simple install as guest OS would have market appeal. As someone who does use Netinstall CD on occasion, and consider a distro for SOHO servers, a key point for this sector is a reliable upgrade, without re- installation. Ubuntu offers LTS and point updates for their server edition. It's not just the availability of a CD that makes them attractive. #2: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:23:54) (reply to #1) A tuned version for Virtualised hardware not just 'badge' engineering was my intention. Making things simple and quick for folk in a hurry on Other OSes, would help build market share. #3: Birger Kollstrand (mrkane) (2009-03-09 15:22:51) I like the idea. It would be good to have a new openSUSE Server edition with the forthcomming YaST WEB managment tool in 11.2 I'd also love to see that this server has a "Home" focus. Make it easier for everyone to rune a openSUSE "Home" ser ver on a PC or an embedded NAS or similar. #4: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-03-09 16:00:12) Who wants to maintain that edition? Who wants to define that edition? #5: Unknown User (fate_noreply) (2009-03-09 17:05:05) Seems a good idea to me too. I found by chance some info on Windows Home Server, and I was wondering if it would be possible to do something similar with openSUSE. The discussion was started here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2009-03/msg00141.html Let's see how it evolves ;-) #6: Michael Löffler (michl19) (2009-06-05 15:12:38) Hmm, its challenging for a feature request if even the requester rates it just desirable. From the voting and my understanding I thinkt that's a thing which should be considered. But as coolo already mentioned, who will maintain it, who will define it? Do we have a server edition already in the OBS? #7: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-06-09 12:19:28) still looking for maintainer #8: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2009-07-01 23:19:50) #opensuse-server has been created to hopefully build a community around this #9: Luc de Louw (delouw) (2009-07-12 14:35:48) IHMO this is not needed. On install just choose "minimal installation" (somthing like this) as package group and install any needed packes afterwards. If you got your custom selection just save it or clone the system with autoyast. As Coolo outlines: There must be a maintainer for this. If some persons (more than one person please) volunteers, why not. #10: George Pantazis (gpant) (2009-07-12 22:41:02) When I voted for this feature I thought this was about a Home Server in the same league as Windows Home Server. People that are going to install it on a real server would use a netinstall or a special build through studio, they wouldnt care much about a text only CD. It would be interesting if this FATE had the goal to create something like WHS that would use a lightweight WM, a special YaST Module that will be easier to use by people that are not technical and would utilize the new http access to YaST. It would require that most of the YaST modules would have to hide the more advanced features (under a Advanced Features tab?:-) and even provide new modules with functionality specific to Home Servers for example setup Mediatomb and Gallery2. #11: wilson coronado barrantes (wecb_xxx) (2009-08-04 19:31:20) I really feel uncomfortable with ubuntu server(i prefer opensuse is more robust and easy to manage, i feel opensuse is more like a linux server with a desktop on top), but we have to choose it because for 2 reason's: firts LTS and second is more more easy to install because is more easy to get a cd than a DVD. Opensuse must have a cd server. + #13: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-11-12 11:38:54) (reply to #11) + There are Net Install CD's only 100 or 150 MiB, which lets you only + download what you use, you don't need DVD to have the full install + options. #12: Raimo Schmidt (raimoschmidt) (2009-08-18 07:35:06) Great Idea. If SUSE will have Server, developers will be able to imcrease attention to Server Functions Such is MS AD integration (I mean let SUSE Server be your Windows domain controller)   Also LTS will be good point for certifications in some countries -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305664

Feature changed by: jpxviii jpxviii (jpxviii) Feature #305664, revision 37 Title: Server CD Hackweek IV: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.2: Rejected by Stephan Kulow (coolo) reject date: 2009-08-12 11:07:13 reject reason: no volunteer stepped up and it's not even clear what the goal of this feature would be (see comments) Priority Requester: Desirable Projectmanager: Neutral + openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed + Priority + Requester: Important Requested by: Martin Schlander (cb400f) Description: Providing an official openSUSE server cd - with some often used server software - and perhaps a lightweight window manager like icewm or similar - would be a great thing for a number of reasons. * openSUSE is generally considered a desktop centric distribution, providing a server cd would do a heck of a lot to highligt the excellent (home-)server qualities of openSUSE. * The few people that realize that the openSUSE DVD/netinstall actually offers text mode/server installation, are often discouraged by needing to download a full DVD, or do troublesome and slow http/ftp installation. * Server users are generally more technical people, it would be beneficial to attract more of these to the openSUSE project. * More people using openSUSE on home servers would likely have spill- over effects on SLES sales. * An openSUSE server cd, would be an excellent response to Ubuntu server edition and Microsoft Home Server. Discussion: #1: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:20:09) Please Market as Server and Virtualisation CD. An option to simple install as guest OS would have market appeal. As someone who does use Netinstall CD on occasion, and consider a distro for SOHO servers, a key point for this sector is a reliable upgrade, without re- installation. Ubuntu offers LTS and point updates for their server edition. It's not just the availability of a CD that makes them attractive. #2: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:23:54) (reply to #1) A tuned version for Virtualised hardware not just 'badge' engineering was my intention. Making things simple and quick for folk in a hurry on Other OSes, would help build market share. #3: Birger Kollstrand (mrkane) (2009-03-09 15:22:51) I like the idea. It would be good to have a new openSUSE Server edition with the forthcomming YaST WEB managment tool in 11.2 I'd also love to see that this server has a "Home" focus. Make it easier for everyone to rune a openSUSE "Home" ser ver on a PC or an embedded NAS or similar. #4: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-03-09 16:00:12) Who wants to maintain that edition? Who wants to define that edition? #5: Unknown User (fate_noreply) (2009-03-09 17:05:05) Seems a good idea to me too. I found by chance some info on Windows Home Server, and I was wondering if it would be possible to do something similar with openSUSE. The discussion was started here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2009-03/msg00141.html Let's see how it evolves ;-) #6: Michael Löffler (michl19) (2009-06-05 15:12:38) Hmm, its challenging for a feature request if even the requester rates it just desirable. From the voting and my understanding I thinkt that's a thing which should be considered. But as coolo already mentioned, who will maintain it, who will define it? Do we have a server edition already in the OBS? #7: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-06-09 12:19:28) still looking for maintainer #8: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2009-07-01 23:19:50) #opensuse-server has been created to hopefully build a community around this #9: Luc de Louw (delouw) (2009-07-12 14:35:48) IHMO this is not needed. On install just choose "minimal installation" (somthing like this) as package group and install any needed packes afterwards. If you got your custom selection just save it or clone the system with autoyast. As Coolo outlines: There must be a maintainer for this. If some persons (more than one person please) volunteers, why not. #14: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-11-12 11:46:41) (reply to #9) The point would be to make a faster more efficient install, for those who aren't familiar with SuSE ways of doing things.  It takes a while to understand and appreciate YaST, and  they will often be too rushed to figure out how to do the selections The Server CD could use images like the desktop's have to create faster, say a LAMP server, file & print server, to reduce clicks to get something useful. #10: George Pantazis (gpant) (2009-07-12 22:41:02) When I voted for this feature I thought this was about a Home Server in the same league as Windows Home Server. People that are going to install it on a real server would use a netinstall or a special build through studio, they wouldnt care much about a text only CD. It would be interesting if this FATE had the goal to create something like WHS that would use a lightweight WM, a special YaST Module that will be easier to use by people that are not technical and would utilize the new http access to YaST. It would require that most of the YaST modules would have to hide the more advanced features (under a Advanced Features tab?:-) and even provide new modules with functionality specific to Home Servers for example setup Mediatomb and Gallery2. #11: wilson coronado barrantes (wecb_xxx) (2009-08-04 19:31:20) I really feel uncomfortable with ubuntu server(i prefer opensuse is more robust and easy to manage, i feel opensuse is more like a linux server with a desktop on top), but we have to choose it because for 2 reason's: firts LTS and second is more more easy to install because is more easy to get a cd than a DVD. Opensuse must have a cd server. #13: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-11-12 11:38:54) (reply to #11) There are Net Install CD's only 100 or 150 MiB, which lets you only download what you use, you don't need DVD to have the full install options. #12: Raimo Schmidt (raimoschmidt) (2009-08-18 07:35:06) Great Idea. If SUSE will have Server, developers will be able to imcrease attention to Server Functions Such is MS AD integration (I mean let SUSE Server be your Windows domain controller)   Also LTS will be good point for certifications in some countries -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305664

Feature changed by: Andras Dosztal (adosztal) Feature #305664, revision 39 Title: Server CD Hackweek IV: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.2: Rejected by Stephan Kulow (coolo) reject date: 2009-08-12 11:07:13 reject reason: no volunteer stepped up and it's not even clear what the goal of this feature would be (see comments) Priority Requester: Desirable Projectmanager: Neutral openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Martin Schlander (cb400f) Description: Providing an official openSUSE server cd - with some often used server software - and perhaps a lightweight window manager like icewm or similar - would be a great thing for a number of reasons. * openSUSE is generally considered a desktop centric distribution, providing a server cd would do a heck of a lot to highligt the excellent (home-)server qualities of openSUSE. * The few people that realize that the openSUSE DVD/netinstall actually offers text mode/server installation, are often discouraged by needing to download a full DVD, or do troublesome and slow http/ftp installation. * Server users are generally more technical people, it would be beneficial to attract more of these to the openSUSE project. * More people using openSUSE on home servers would likely have spill- over effects on SLES sales. * An openSUSE server cd, would be an excellent response to Ubuntu server edition and Microsoft Home Server. Discussion: #1: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:20:09) Please Market as Server and Virtualisation CD. An option to simple install as guest OS would have market appeal. As someone who does use Netinstall CD on occasion, and consider a distro for SOHO servers, a key point for this sector is a reliable upgrade, without re- installation. Ubuntu offers LTS and point updates for their server edition. It's not just the availability of a CD that makes them attractive. #2: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:23:54) (reply to #1) A tuned version for Virtualised hardware not just 'badge' engineering was my intention. Making things simple and quick for folk in a hurry on Other OSes, would help build market share. #3: Birger Kollstrand (mrkane) (2009-03-09 15:22:51) I like the idea. It would be good to have a new openSUSE Server edition with the forthcomming YaST WEB managment tool in 11.2 I'd also love to see that this server has a "Home" focus. Make it easier for everyone to rune a openSUSE "Home" ser ver on a PC or an embedded NAS or similar. #4: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-03-09 16:00:12) Who wants to maintain that edition? Who wants to define that edition? #5: Unknown User (fate_noreply) (2009-03-09 17:05:05) Seems a good idea to me too. I found by chance some info on Windows Home Server, and I was wondering if it would be possible to do something similar with openSUSE. The discussion was started here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2009-03/msg00141.html Let's see how it evolves ;-) #6: Michael Löffler (michl19) (2009-06-05 15:12:38) Hmm, its challenging for a feature request if even the requester rates it just desirable. From the voting and my understanding I thinkt that's a thing which should be considered. But as coolo already mentioned, who will maintain it, who will define it? Do we have a server edition already in the OBS? #7: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-06-09 12:19:28) still looking for maintainer #8: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2009-07-01 23:19:50) #opensuse-server has been created to hopefully build a community around this #9: Luc de Louw (delouw) (2009-07-12 14:35:48) IHMO this is not needed. On install just choose "minimal installation" (somthing like this) as package group and install any needed packes afterwards. If you got your custom selection just save it or clone the system with autoyast. As Coolo outlines: There must be a maintainer for this. If some persons (more than one person please) volunteers, why not. #14: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-11-12 11:46:41) (reply to #9) The point would be to make a faster more efficient install, for those who aren't familiar with SuSE ways of doing things.  It takes a while to understand and appreciate YaST, and  they will often be too rushed to figure out how to do the selections The Server CD could use images like the desktop's have to create faster, say a LAMP server, file & print server, to reduce clicks to get something useful. + #15: Andras Dosztal (adosztal) (2010-09-26 09:52:23) (reply to #14) + YaST has patterns for these servers, and it's easy to find during the + installation. If you want specialized servers, SUSE Gallery has many + great images for it, ex.: http://susegallery.com/search?q=lamp #10: George Pantazis (gpant) (2009-07-12 22:41:02) When I voted for this feature I thought this was about a Home Server in the same league as Windows Home Server. People that are going to install it on a real server would use a netinstall or a special build through studio, they wouldnt care much about a text only CD. It would be interesting if this FATE had the goal to create something like WHS that would use a lightweight WM, a special YaST Module that will be easier to use by people that are not technical and would utilize the new http access to YaST. It would require that most of the YaST modules would have to hide the more advanced features (under a Advanced Features tab?:-) and even provide new modules with functionality specific to Home Servers for example setup Mediatomb and Gallery2. #11: wilson coronado barrantes (wecb_xxx) (2009-08-04 19:31:20) I really feel uncomfortable with ubuntu server(i prefer opensuse is more robust and easy to manage, i feel opensuse is more like a linux server with a desktop on top), but we have to choose it because for 2 reason's: firts LTS and second is more more easy to install because is more easy to get a cd than a DVD. Opensuse must have a cd server. #13: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-11-12 11:38:54) (reply to #11) There are Net Install CD's only 100 or 150 MiB, which lets you only download what you use, you don't need DVD to have the full install options. #12: Raimo Schmidt (raimoschmidt) (2009-08-18 07:35:06) Great Idea. If SUSE will have Server, developers will be able to imcrease attention to Server Functions Such is MS AD integration (I mean let SUSE Server be your Windows domain controller)   Also LTS will be good point for certifications in some countries -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305664

Feature changed by: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) Feature #305664, revision 42 Title: Server CD openSUSE-11.2: Rejected Priority Requester: Desirable Projectmanager: Neutral - openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed + openSUSE-11.4: New Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Martin Schlander (cb400f) Product Manager: (Novell) Project Manager: (Novell) Engineering Manager: (Novell) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Providing an official openSUSE server cd - with some often used server software - and perhaps a lightweight window manager like icewm or similar - would be a great thing for a number of reasons. * openSUSE is generally considered a desktop centric distribution, providing a server cd would do a heck of a lot to highligt the excellent (home-)server qualities of openSUSE. * The few people that realize that the openSUSE DVD/netinstall actually offers text mode/server installation, are often discouraged by needing to download a full DVD, or do troublesome and slow http/ftp installation. * Server users are generally more technical people, it would be beneficial to attract more of these to the openSUSE project. * More people using openSUSE on home servers would likely have spill- over effects on SLES sales. * An openSUSE server cd, would be an excellent response to Ubuntu server edition and Microsoft Home Server. Discussion: #1: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:20:09) Please Market as Server and Virtualisation CD. An option to simple install as guest OS would have market appeal. As someone who does use Netinstall CD on occasion, and consider a distro for SOHO servers, a key point for this sector is a reliable upgrade, without re- installation. Ubuntu offers LTS and point updates for their server edition. It's not just the availability of a CD that makes them attractive. #2: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:23:54) (reply to #1) A tuned version for Virtualised hardware not just 'badge' engineering was my intention. Making things simple and quick for folk in a hurry on Other OSes, would help build market share. #3: Birger Kollstrand (mrkane) (2009-03-09 15:22:51) I like the idea. It would be good to have a new openSUSE Server edition with the forthcomming YaST WEB managment tool in 11.2 I'd also love to see that this server has a "Home" focus. Make it easier for everyone to rune a openSUSE "Home" ser ver on a PC or an embedded NAS or similar. #4: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-03-09 16:00:12) Who wants to maintain that edition? Who wants to define that edition? #5: Unknown User (fate_noreply) (2009-03-09 17:05:05) Seems a good idea to me too. I found by chance some info on Windows Home Server, and I was wondering if it would be possible to do something similar with openSUSE. The discussion was started here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2009-03/msg00141.html Let's see how it evolves ;-) #6: Michael Löffler (michl19) (2009-06-05 15:12:38) Hmm, its challenging for a feature request if even the requester rates it just desirable. From the voting and my understanding I thinkt that's a thing which should be considered. But as coolo already mentioned, who will maintain it, who will define it? Do we have a server edition already in the OBS? #7: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-06-09 12:19:28) still looking for maintainer #8: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2009-07-01 23:19:50) #opensuse-server has been created to hopefully build a community around this #9: Luc de Louw (delouw) (2009-07-12 14:35:48) IHMO this is not needed. On install just choose "minimal installation" (somthing like this) as package group and install any needed packes afterwards. If you got your custom selection just save it or clone the system with autoyast. As Coolo outlines: There must be a maintainer for this. If some persons (more than one person please) volunteers, why not. #14: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-11-12 11:46:41) (reply to #9) The point would be to make a faster more efficient install, for those who aren't familiar with SuSE ways of doing things.  It takes a while to understand and appreciate YaST, and  they will often be too rushed to figure out how to do the selections The Server CD could use images like the desktop's have to create faster, say a LAMP server, file & print server, to reduce clicks to get something useful. #15: Andras Dosztal (adosztal) (2010-09-26 09:52:23) (reply to #14) YaST has patterns for these servers, and it's easy to find during the installation. If you want specialized servers, SUSE Gallery has many great images for it, ex.: http://susegallery.com/search?q=lamp #10: George Pantazis (gpant) (2009-07-12 22:41:02) When I voted for this feature I thought this was about a Home Server in the same league as Windows Home Server. People that are going to install it on a real server would use a netinstall or a special build through studio, they wouldnt care much about a text only CD. It would be interesting if this FATE had the goal to create something like WHS that would use a lightweight WM, a special YaST Module that will be easier to use by people that are not technical and would utilize the new http access to YaST. It would require that most of the YaST modules would have to hide the more advanced features (under a Advanced Features tab?:-) and even provide new modules with functionality specific to Home Servers for example setup Mediatomb and Gallery2. #11: wilson coronado barrantes (wecb_xxx) (2009-08-04 19:31:20) I really feel uncomfortable with ubuntu server(i prefer opensuse is more robust and easy to manage, i feel opensuse is more like a linux server with a desktop on top), but we have to choose it because for 2 reason's: firts LTS and second is more more easy to install because is more easy to get a cd than a DVD. Opensuse must have a cd server. #13: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-11-12 11:38:54) (reply to #11) There are Net Install CD's only 100 or 150 MiB, which lets you only download what you use, you don't need DVD to have the full install options. #12: Raimo Schmidt (raimoschmidt) (2009-08-18 07:35:06) Great Idea. If SUSE will have Server, developers will be able to imcrease attention to Server Functions Such is MS AD integration (I mean let SUSE Server be your Windows domain controller)   Also LTS will be good point for certifications in some countries -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305664

Feature changed by: Sławomir Lach (Lachu) Feature #305664, revision 45 Title: Server CD openSUSE-11.2: Rejected Priority Requester: Desirable Projectmanager: Neutral openSUSE-11.4: New Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Martin Schlander (cb400f) Product Manager: (Novell) Project Manager: (Novell) Engineering Manager: (Novell) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Providing an official openSUSE server cd - with some often used server software - and perhaps a lightweight window manager like icewm or similar - would be a great thing for a number of reasons. * openSUSE is generally considered a desktop centric distribution, providing a server cd would do a heck of a lot to highligt the excellent (home-)server qualities of openSUSE. * The few people that realize that the openSUSE DVD/netinstall actually offers text mode/server installation, are often discouraged by needing to download a full DVD, or do troublesome and slow http/ftp installation. * Server users are generally more technical people, it would be beneficial to attract more of these to the openSUSE project. * More people using openSUSE on home servers would likely have spill- over effects on SLES sales. * An openSUSE server cd, would be an excellent response to Ubuntu server edition and Microsoft Home Server. Discussion: #1: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:20:09) Please Market as Server and Virtualisation CD. An option to simple install as guest OS would have market appeal. As someone who does use Netinstall CD on occasion, and consider a distro for SOHO servers, a key point for this sector is a reliable upgrade, without re- installation. Ubuntu offers LTS and point updates for their server edition. It's not just the availability of a CD that makes them attractive. #2: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:23:54) (reply to #1) A tuned version for Virtualised hardware not just 'badge' engineering was my intention. Making things simple and quick for folk in a hurry on Other OSes, would help build market share. #3: Birger Kollstrand (mrkane) (2009-03-09 15:22:51) I like the idea. It would be good to have a new openSUSE Server edition with the forthcomming YaST WEB managment tool in 11.2 I'd also love to see that this server has a "Home" focus. Make it easier for everyone to rune a openSUSE "Home" ser ver on a PC or an embedded NAS or similar. #4: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-03-09 16:00:12) Who wants to maintain that edition? Who wants to define that edition? #5: Unknown User (fate_noreply) (2009-03-09 17:05:05) Seems a good idea to me too. I found by chance some info on Windows Home Server, and I was wondering if it would be possible to do something similar with openSUSE. The discussion was started here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2009-03/msg00141.html Let's see how it evolves ;-) #6: Michael Löffler (michl19) (2009-06-05 15:12:38) Hmm, its challenging for a feature request if even the requester rates it just desirable. From the voting and my understanding I thinkt that's a thing which should be considered. But as coolo already mentioned, who will maintain it, who will define it? Do we have a server edition already in the OBS? #7: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-06-09 12:19:28) still looking for maintainer #8: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2009-07-01 23:19:50) #opensuse-server has been created to hopefully build a community around this #9: Luc de Louw (delouw) (2009-07-12 14:35:48) IHMO this is not needed. On install just choose "minimal installation" (somthing like this) as package group and install any needed packes afterwards. If you got your custom selection just save it or clone the system with autoyast. As Coolo outlines: There must be a maintainer for this. If some persons (more than one person please) volunteers, why not. #14: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-11-12 11:46:41) (reply to #9) The point would be to make a faster more efficient install, for those who aren't familiar with SuSE ways of doing things.  It takes a while to understand and appreciate YaST, and  they will often be too rushed to figure out how to do the selections The Server CD could use images like the desktop's have to create faster, say a LAMP server, file & print server, to reduce clicks to get something useful. #15: Andras Dosztal (adosztal) (2010-09-26 09:52:23) (reply to #14) YaST has patterns for these servers, and it's easy to find during the installation. If you want specialized servers, SUSE Gallery has many great images for it, ex.: http://susegallery.com/search?q=lamp #10: George Pantazis (gpant) (2009-07-12 22:41:02) When I voted for this feature I thought this was about a Home Server in the same league as Windows Home Server. People that are going to install it on a real server would use a netinstall or a special build through studio, they wouldnt care much about a text only CD. It would be interesting if this FATE had the goal to create something like WHS that would use a lightweight WM, a special YaST Module that will be easier to use by people that are not technical and would utilize the new http access to YaST. It would require that most of the YaST modules would have to hide the more advanced features (under a Advanced Features tab?:-) and even provide new modules with functionality specific to Home Servers for example setup Mediatomb and Gallery2. #11: wilson coronado barrantes (wecb_xxx) (2009-08-04 19:31:20) I really feel uncomfortable with ubuntu server(i prefer opensuse is more robust and easy to manage, i feel opensuse is more like a linux server with a desktop on top), but we have to choose it because for 2 reason's: firts LTS and second is more more easy to install because is more easy to get a cd than a DVD. Opensuse must have a cd server. #13: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-11-12 11:38:54) (reply to #11) There are Net Install CD's only 100 or 150 MiB, which lets you only download what you use, you don't need DVD to have the full install options. #12: Raimo Schmidt (raimoschmidt) (2009-08-18 07:35:06) Great Idea. If SUSE will have Server, developers will be able to imcrease attention to Server Functions Such is MS AD integration (I mean let SUSE Server be your Windows domain controller)   Also LTS will be good point for certifications in some countries #16: Michal Papis (mpapis) (2010-12-12 02:28:19) (reply to #12) LTS + server edition, how much I miss it, on linode.com, they already stoped givving newest opensuse, all you can find is ubuntu server edition ... + #17: Sławomir Lach (lachu) (2010-12-12 15:03:01) + Not better to do some stuff like netinstall, but as an application to + prepare DVDs/CDs to install system? + As Wubi or LiveSystem, which prepare disk image to burn onto drive and + install on another computer. We could handle some differences/spins(I + know, that OpenSUSE now supported some spins) with configuration for + this program. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305664

Feature changed by: Per Jessen (pjessen) Feature #305664, revision 48 Title: Server CD openSUSE-11.2: Rejected Priority Requester: Desirable Projectmanager: Neutral openSUSE-11.4: New Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Martin Schlander (cb400f) Product Manager: (Novell) Project Manager: (Novell) Engineering Manager: (Novell) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Providing an official openSUSE server cd - with some often used server software - and perhaps a lightweight window manager like icewm or similar - would be a great thing for a number of reasons. * openSUSE is generally considered a desktop centric distribution, providing a server cd would do a heck of a lot to highligt the excellent (home-)server qualities of openSUSE. * The few people that realize that the openSUSE DVD/netinstall actually offers text mode/server installation, are often discouraged by needing to download a full DVD, or do troublesome and slow http/ftp installation. * Server users are generally more technical people, it would be beneficial to attract more of these to the openSUSE project. * More people using openSUSE on home servers would likely have spill- over effects on SLES sales. * An openSUSE server cd, would be an excellent response to Ubuntu server edition and Microsoft Home Server. Discussion: #1: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:20:09) Please Market as Server and Virtualisation CD. An option to simple install as guest OS would have market appeal. As someone who does use Netinstall CD on occasion, and consider a distro for SOHO servers, a key point for this sector is a reliable upgrade, without re- installation. Ubuntu offers LTS and point updates for their server edition. It's not just the availability of a CD that makes them attractive. #2: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:23:54) (reply to #1) A tuned version for Virtualised hardware not just 'badge' engineering was my intention. Making things simple and quick for folk in a hurry on Other OSes, would help build market share. #3: Birger Kollstrand (mrkane) (2009-03-09 15:22:51) I like the idea. It would be good to have a new openSUSE Server edition with the forthcomming YaST WEB managment tool in 11.2 I'd also love to see that this server has a "Home" focus. Make it easier for everyone to rune a openSUSE "Home" ser ver on a PC or an embedded NAS or similar. #4: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-03-09 16:00:12) Who wants to maintain that edition? Who wants to define that edition? #5: Unknown User (fate_noreply) (2009-03-09 17:05:05) Seems a good idea to me too. I found by chance some info on Windows Home Server, and I was wondering if it would be possible to do something similar with openSUSE. The discussion was started here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2009-03/msg00141.html Let's see how it evolves ;-) #6: Michael Löffler (michl19) (2009-06-05 15:12:38) Hmm, its challenging for a feature request if even the requester rates it just desirable. From the voting and my understanding I thinkt that's a thing which should be considered. But as coolo already mentioned, who will maintain it, who will define it? Do we have a server edition already in the OBS? #7: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-06-09 12:19:28) still looking for maintainer #8: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2009-07-01 23:19:50) #opensuse-server has been created to hopefully build a community around this #9: Luc de Louw (delouw) (2009-07-12 14:35:48) IHMO this is not needed. On install just choose "minimal installation" (somthing like this) as package group and install any needed packes afterwards. If you got your custom selection just save it or clone the system with autoyast. As Coolo outlines: There must be a maintainer for this. If some persons (more than one person please) volunteers, why not. #14: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-11-12 11:46:41) (reply to #9) The point would be to make a faster more efficient install, for those who aren't familiar with SuSE ways of doing things.  It takes a while to understand and appreciate YaST, and  they will often be too rushed to figure out how to do the selections The Server CD could use images like the desktop's have to create faster, say a LAMP server, file & print server, to reduce clicks to get something useful. #15: Andras Dosztal (adosztal) (2010-09-26 09:52:23) (reply to #14) YaST has patterns for these servers, and it's easy to find during the installation. If you want specialized servers, SUSE Gallery has many great images for it, ex.: http://susegallery.com/search?q=lamp #10: George Pantazis (gpant) (2009-07-12 22:41:02) When I voted for this feature I thought this was about a Home Server in the same league as Windows Home Server. People that are going to install it on a real server would use a netinstall or a special build through studio, they wouldnt care much about a text only CD. It would be interesting if this FATE had the goal to create something like WHS that would use a lightweight WM, a special YaST Module that will be easier to use by people that are not technical and would utilize the new http access to YaST. It would require that most of the YaST modules would have to hide the more advanced features (under a Advanced Features tab?:-) and even provide new modules with functionality specific to Home Servers for example setup Mediatomb and Gallery2. #11: wilson coronado barrantes (wecb_xxx) (2009-08-04 19:31:20) I really feel uncomfortable with ubuntu server(i prefer opensuse is more robust and easy to manage, i feel opensuse is more like a linux server with a desktop on top), but we have to choose it because for 2 reason's: firts LTS and second is more more easy to install because is more easy to get a cd than a DVD. Opensuse must have a cd server. #13: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-11-12 11:38:54) (reply to #11) There are Net Install CD's only 100 or 150 MiB, which lets you only download what you use, you don't need DVD to have the full install options. #18: Christopher Yeleighton (yecril71pl) (2011-02-14 18:31:40) (reply to #13) No matter how hard I tried, I was unable to install openSuSE without KDE using the NET install. Maybe I should have used text mode? Is it because the GUI installer requires a substantial portion of KDE itself? + #19: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2011-02-14 21:08:43) (reply to #18) + I regularly do NET installations for servers (without KDE etc.) - I + always choose "Minimal Server installation", this works very well. #12: Raimo Schmidt (raimoschmidt) (2009-08-18 07:35:06) Great Idea. If SUSE will have Server, developers will be able to imcrease attention to Server Functions Such is MS AD integration (I mean let SUSE Server be your Windows domain controller)   Also LTS will be good point for certifications in some countries #16: Michal Papis (mpapis) (2010-12-12 02:28:19) (reply to #12) LTS + server edition, how much I miss it, on linode.com, they already stoped givving newest opensuse, all you can find is ubuntu server edition ... #17: Sławomir Lach (lachu) (2010-12-12 15:03:01) Not better to do some stuff like netinstall, but as an application to prepare DVDs/CDs to install system? As Wubi or LiveSystem, which prepare disk image to burn onto drive and install on another computer. We could handle some differences/spins(I know, that OpenSUSE now supported some spins) with configuration for this program. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305664

Feature changed by: Richard Brown (RBrownSUSE) Feature #305664, revision 51 Title: Server CD - openSUSE Distribution: Evaluation by engineering manager + openSUSE Distribution: Done Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Martin Schlander (cb400f) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Providing an official openSUSE server cd - with some often used server software - and perhaps a lightweight window manager like icewm or similar - would be a great thing for a number of reasons. * openSUSE is generally considered a desktop centric distribution, providing a server cd would do a heck of a lot to highligt the excellent (home-)server qualities of openSUSE. * The few people that realize that the openSUSE DVD/netinstall actually offers text mode/server installation, are often discouraged by needing to download a full DVD, or do troublesome and slow http/ftp installation. * Server users are generally more technical people, it would be beneficial to attract more of these to the openSUSE project. * More people using openSUSE on home servers would likely have spill- over effects on SLES sales. * An openSUSE server cd, would be an excellent response to Ubuntu server edition and Microsoft Home Server. Discussion: #1: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:20:09) Please Market as Server and Virtualisation CD. An option to simple install as guest OS would have market appeal. As someone who does use Netinstall CD on occasion, and consider a distro for SOHO servers, a key point for this sector is a reliable upgrade, without re- installation. Ubuntu offers LTS and point updates for their server edition. It's not just the availability of a CD that makes them attractive. #2: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-01-16 16:23:54) (reply to #1) A tuned version for Virtualised hardware not just 'badge' engineering was my intention. Making things simple and quick for folk in a hurry on Other OSes, would help build market share. #3: Birger Kollstrand (mrkane) (2009-03-09 15:22:51) I like the idea. It would be good to have a new openSUSE Server edition with the forthcomming YaST WEB managment tool in 11.2 I'd also love to see that this server has a "Home" focus. Make it easier for everyone to rune a openSUSE "Home" ser ver on a PC or an embedded NAS or similar. #4: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-03-09 16:00:12) Who wants to maintain that edition? Who wants to define that edition? #5: Unknown User (fate_noreply) (2009-03-09 17:05:05) Seems a good idea to me too. I found by chance some info on Windows Home Server, and I was wondering if it would be possible to do something similar with openSUSE. The discussion was started here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2009-03/msg00141.html Let's see how it evolves ;-) #6: Michael Löffler (michl19) (2009-06-05 15:12:38) Hmm, its challenging for a feature request if even the requester rates it just desirable. From the voting and my understanding I thinkt that's a thing which should be considered. But as coolo already mentioned, who will maintain it, who will define it? Do we have a server edition already in the OBS? #7: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-06-09 12:19:28) still looking for maintainer #8: Stephen Shaw (decriptor) (2009-07-01 23:19:50) #opensuse-server has been created to hopefully build a community around this #9: Luc de Louw (delouw) (2009-07-12 14:35:48) IHMO this is not needed. On install just choose "minimal installation" (somthing like this) as package group and install any needed packes afterwards. If you got your custom selection just save it or clone the system with autoyast. As Coolo outlines: There must be a maintainer for this. If some persons (more than one person please) volunteers, why not. #14: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-11-12 11:46:41) (reply to #9) The point would be to make a faster more efficient install, for those who aren't familiar with SuSE ways of doing things.  It takes a while to understand and appreciate YaST, and  they will often be too rushed to figure out how to do the selections The Server CD could use images like the desktop's have to create faster, say a LAMP server, file & print server, to reduce clicks to get something useful. #15: Andras Dosztal (adosztal) (2010-09-26 09:52:23) (reply to #14) YaST has patterns for these servers, and it's easy to find during the installation. If you want specialized servers, SUSE Gallery has many great images for it, ex.: http://susegallery.com/search?q=lamp #10: George Pantazis (gpant) (2009-07-12 22:41:02) When I voted for this feature I thought this was about a Home Server in the same league as Windows Home Server. People that are going to install it on a real server would use a netinstall or a special build through studio, they wouldnt care much about a text only CD. It would be interesting if this FATE had the goal to create something like WHS that would use a lightweight WM, a special YaST Module that will be easier to use by people that are not technical and would utilize the new http access to YaST. It would require that most of the YaST modules would have to hide the more advanced features (under a Advanced Features tab?:-) and even provide new modules with functionality specific to Home Servers for example setup Mediatomb and Gallery2. #11: wilson coronado barrantes (wecb_xxx) (2009-08-04 19:31:20) I really feel uncomfortable with ubuntu server(i prefer opensuse is more robust and easy to manage, i feel opensuse is more like a linux server with a desktop on top), but we have to choose it because for 2 reason's: firts LTS and second is more more easy to install because is more easy to get a cd than a DVD. Opensuse must have a cd server. #13: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-11-12 11:38:54) (reply to #11) There are Net Install CD's only 100 or 150 MiB, which lets you only download what you use, you don't need DVD to have the full install options. #18: Christopher Yeleighton (yecril71pl) (2011-02-14 18:31:40) (reply to #13) No matter how hard I tried, I was unable to install openSuSE without KDE using the NET install. Maybe I should have used text mode? Is it because the GUI installer requires a substantial portion of KDE itself? #19: Per Jessen (pjessen) (2011-02-14 21:08:43) (reply to #18) I regularly do NET installations for servers (without KDE etc.) - I always choose "Minimal Server installation", this works very well. #12: Raimo Schmidt (raimoschmidt) (2009-08-18 07:35:06) Great Idea. If SUSE will have Server, developers will be able to imcrease attention to Server Functions Such is MS AD integration (I mean let SUSE Server be your Windows domain controller)   Also LTS will be good point for certifications in some countries #16: Michal Papis (mpapis) (2010-12-12 02:28:19) (reply to #12) LTS + server edition, how much I miss it, on linode.com, they already stoped givving newest opensuse, all you can find is ubuntu server edition ... #17: Sławomir Lach (lachu) (2010-12-12 15:03:01) Not better to do some stuff like netinstall, but as an application to prepare DVDs/CDs to install system? As Wubi or LiveSystem, which prepare disk image to burn onto drive and install on another computer. We could handle some differences/spins(I know, that OpenSUSE now supported some spins) with configuration for this program. #20: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2011-08-30 14:14:47) I put it in marketplace now to describe the situation more correctly - but I will reject this feature next time I come around it and still no one declared herself responsible for defining and maintaining it. + #21: Richard Brown (rbrownsuse) (2017-05-25 10:51:55) + Server is now an option on the regular installation media -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305664