* Andreas Jaeger [01-01-70 11:34]:

On Thursday 23 July 2009 22:51:39 Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Patrick Shanahan [07-22-09 22:57]:

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Just updated to MileStone 4 and get error: unable to start kdeinit4

from /var/log/messages:

Jul 22 19:09:50 wahoo dbus-daemon: Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="signal", sender=":1.12" (uid=105 pid=4320 comm="avahi-daemon: starting up) interface="org.freedesktop.Avahi.ServiceTypeBrowser" member="AllForNow" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination=":1.404" (uid=1000 pid=20248 comm= kdeinit4: kded4 [kdeinit]))

Today's update and reinstall of openSUSE did not alleviate the problem.

"Could not start kdeinit4. Check your installation"

Suggestion?

Please file a bug ;)

Since it mentions avahi, try disabling the two avahi services and login again. Does this help?

disabling avahi services does not make a difference. kdeinit4 in a console: kdeinit4: Aborting. $DISPLAY is not set. Note: still able to start gnome/icewm/xfce4/twm will file a bug, tks -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

* Lubos Lunak [01-01-70 11:34]:

On Friday 24 of July 2009, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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kdeinit4 in a console: kdeinit4: Aborting. $DISPLAY is not set.

Of course. How do you expect KDE to work in text mode?

Runlevel 5, X was running. Or am I mistaken? -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

* Felix Miata [07-24-09 16:33]:

I think he thought you meant literally a console, as in tty[1-6], rather than Konsole.

and I *did*. :^) -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On Friday 24 of July 2009, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Lubos Lunak [07-24-09 15:40]:

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On Friday 24 of July 2009, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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kdeinit4 in a console: kdeinit4: Aborting. $DISPLAY is not set.

Of course. How do you expect KDE to work in text mode?

perhaps incorrect terminology, from tty1 in runlevel 5.

If you want to run KDE manually, for whatever reason, login into the failsafe session type from KDM. -- Lubos Lunak KDE developer -------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s.r.o. e-mail: l.lunak@suse.cz , l.lunak@kde.org Lihovarska 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 972 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

* Dirk Müller [01-01-70 11:34]:

On Thursday 23 July 2009, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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Just updated to MileStone 4 and get error: unable to start kdeinit4

try launching "kdeinit4" manually and see if there is an error message. most likely something with "undefined symbol". please paste that.

kdeinit4: Aborting. $DISPLAY is not set. tks, -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

* Dirk Müller [07-26-09 18:01]:

On Friday 24 July 2009, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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try launching "kdeinit4" manually and see if there is an error message. most likely something with "undefined symbol". please paste that. kdeinit4: Aborting. $DISPLAY is not set.

Okay, please try from a X "failsafe" session.

removed the soft link to /opt/kde3/bin/start_kdeinit_wrapper The kde-failsafe menu offering results in the same "unable to start" notice. The plain failsafe opens an xterm session and issuing "kdeinit4" provides: 22:43 wahoo:~ > kdeinit4 kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib64/libkdeinit4_klauncher.so kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib64/libkdeinit4_kded4.so kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib64/libkdeinit4_kbuildsycoca4.so kbuildsycoca4 running... kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib64/libkdeinit4_kbuildsycoca4.so kbuildsycoca4 running... kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib64/libkdeinit4_kconf_update.so and no error more info: from this failsafe xterm I can issue kdeinit4 rckdm start (as root) plasma-desktop and I have a running desktop/system lacking some of my extras, kjots, ktea, etc. Do you need any other info? -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

* Dirk Müller [07-28-09 13:30]:

On Monday 27 July 2009, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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The kde-failsafe menu offering results in the same "unable to start" notice.

interesting. is there any output in ~/.xsession-errors?

/etc/X11/xim: Checking whether an input method should be started. /usr/bin/manpath: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct /home/pat/.profile: line 55: /usr/X11R6/bin/unclutter: No such file or directory /etc/X11/xim: line 72: CONTROL-G: No such file or directory sourcing /etc/sysconfig/language to get the value of INPUT_METHOD INPUT_METHOD is not set or empty (no user selected input method). Trying to start a default input method for the locale --failsafe ... There is no default input method for the current locale. Dummy input method "none" (do not use any fancy input method by default) /usr/bin/manpath: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct Angels we have heard on High Tell us to go out and Buy. -- Tom Lehrer If at first you don't succeed, give up, no use being a damn fool. startkde: Starting up... /usr/bin/startkde: line 380: /usr/lib64/kde4/libexec/start_kdeinit_wrapper: No such file or directory startkde: Could not start kdeinit4. Check your installation. NOTE: I can start from the twm failsave option and I can start the regular kde4 session with the soft link to /opt/kde3/bin/start_kdeinit_wrapper. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

* ne... [07-29-09 02:00]:

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 21:02, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Dirk Müller [07-28-09 13:30]:

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On Monday 27 July 2009, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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The kde-failsafe menu offering results in the same "unable to start" notice.

interesting. is there any output in ~/.xsession-errors? [...]

startkde: Starting up... /usr/bin/startkde: line 380: /usr/lib64/kde4/libexec/start_kdeinit_wrapper: No such file or directory startkde: Could not start kdeinit4. Check your installation. Two lines above is your error. Go find that file. I don't use X86_64 but my investigations led me to kdelib4.

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note: rpm -ql kdelibs4 |grep wrapper /usr/bin/kdeinit4_wrapper /usr/bin/kwrapper4 there is *no*: start_kdeinit_wrapper and w/kdelibs4-4.3.61svn998540-3.4 it is not required kdelibs4-4.3.61svn998540-3.4 installed Mon 27 Jul 2009 08:39:34 AM EDT but it may break again with the next "zypper dup" :^( -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

* ne... [07-29-09 12:10]:

MileStone 4?

:^) Yes

If yes, I may not be able to help you as I'm on KDE4.3RC3. [work]$ rpm -q kdelibs4 kdelibs4-4.2.98-146.1.i586

[work]$ rpm -ql kdelibs4 | /bin/grep wrapper /usr/bin/kdeinit4_wrapper /usr/bin/kwrapper4 /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/start_kdeinit_wrapper

Seems that since it is referenced from statrtkde, it is needed.

?? as presently installed here, start_kdeinit_wrapper is *not* needed ??? I am adding the soft link when I get the error and removing it when there is an update to test necessity. Presently, it is not required. This may all be due to some funny mix of kde3 requirements pulled in to support basket and quanta and a few other apps not available yet for kde4.... -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

* ne... [07-29-09 14:45]:

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 17:16, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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as presently installed here, start_kdeinit_wrapper is *not* needed ???

I am adding the soft link when I get the error and removing it when there is an update to test necessity.  Presently, it is not required.

This may all be due to some funny mix of kde3 requirements pulled in to support basket and quanta and a few other apps not available yet for kde4....

I have looked into this further and if the error from is startkde is correct then the version you have is not from kdebase4-workspace-4.3.61svn998540.

I have: 16:30 wahoo:~ > rpm -q kdebase4-workspace kdebase4-workspace-4.3.61svn998540-3.1

I pulled spare/RPMS/kdebase4-workspace-4.3.61svn998540-3.1.x86_64.rpm /and looked at startkde. It has a reference to kdeinit4 and not /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/start_kdeinit_wrapper as you rightly noted. I /would change the following line in startkde from

LD_BIND_NOW=true /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/start_kdeinit_wrapper +kcminit_startup

to

LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit4 +kcminit_startup

the default in kdebase4-workspace-4.3.61svn998540-3.1 is: LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit4 +kcminit_startup and works, see above "wrapper is *not* needed".

and see whether this works.

PS: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/UNSTABLE:/Desktop/openS... only had 4.3.61svn998540-3.1and not 4.3.61svn998540-3.4 as you have.

that was kdelibs4: kdelibs4-4.3.61svn998540-3.4 16:35 wahoo:~ > rpm -q kdelibs4 kdebase4-workspace kdelibs4-4.3.61svn998540-3.4 kdebase4-workspace-4.3.61svn998540-3.1 installed via: zypper dup Present status *is* working w/o the soft link to start_kdeinit_wrapper (from kdelibs3-3.5.10-29.11) -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org