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After a few days trying I went back to the proven Windows method: a completely new installation. That solved that particular problem, but I forgot to save the logs. Sorry. and also for the delayed reaction. @ Ju Ping: no problems in that area. The new installation is not completely bug free either, however: Installation: -After configuring the WiFi card, the system can not apply the details. It marks this as a bug and advises reporting. Manual set-up after installation succeeds. This happened also in the previous installation but I did not mention it. Running: -YAST does not react to RPM files; when called by the link, it starts in the panel but closes down without opening a window or providing info. -Graph mode does not give the option to change user, e.g. to root. Previous installation was OK in this. -After confirming, closedown and reboot in graph mode take between 10 and up to abt 40 secs before anything visible happens; then sometimes the text welcome screen appears and closedown has to be done from there or by hard reset. As I am lazy, I choose the latter. This is not a consistent occurrence. It is identical to ianseeks' report. Both processes take a long time, especially when not all windows are closed yet. General: As 13.1/2 was the latest standard version from which I jumped from there to Tumbleweed I make comparisons in that relation. The following remarks may therefore be trivial. -Start-up is very slow compared to 13.1. After Starting Switch Root there is a long time a lot of disk activity. If a machine is the whole day on, that is not a problem, but when one has to close down the laptop a lot of times in one day (e.g. visiting customers), it becomes a bit annoying. Isn't it possible to load files, that for start-up are not really essential, delayed? -The start-up of individual programs also invokes a lot of disk activity and is quite less fast than in 13.x -Asking for new card decks in kpatience links to new wallpapers, not decks. I have now three times made a clean installation of Tumbleweed, once for just having a look, a second time for real that after updating brought up my YAST bug and this one. For whatever reason, each installation ended with slightly different settings, although the machine is the same. A last remark: Although I have been using Linux and Suse since almost 20 years, in this I want to be looking from the point of view of an average user, who has no deep knowledge of solving problems. This usage pattern of course also eases the life of a system administrator. The consideration of this point of view has been too much neglected in all Linux versions; the elitair thinking of "if you don't know how to do it in text, then stay with Widose" has prevented the expansion of Linux in the less-dedicated user area who does/can not use textmode commands. It is refreshing to see that Opensuse is making the effort to change that, although it principally an industrial variant of Linux. Ed A zip of logs of the third installation is attached. -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 8/1/16, Lukas Ocilka <lukas.ocilka@suse.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [opensuse-factory] Tumbleweed YAST To: "Ed Damvelt" <edamvelt@yahoo.com> Cc: opensuse-factory@opensuse.org Date: Monday, August 1, 2016, 11:33 PM On 30.7.2016 07:44, Ed Damvelt wrote: place for this, but anyway.

After the last Tumbleweed update of today

(New Zealand July 30) my YAST itself does open, but none of the sub-programs does any more. The startup indicator appears, but then nothing happens and there is neither anything in the running programs. I need to access the GRUB, as the update also changed the startup sequence there.

Running an

installation with an RPM does not function either any more, neither one-click from the internet nor starting it by clicking on the downloaded file. It seems that YAST is completely broken. Hi, There should be more information in /var/log/YaST2/y2log (near the end of the file). Ideally report a bug and attach the whole /var/log/YaST2/ directory (compressed), or at least /var/log/YaST2/y2log for the first check. Bye Lukas -- Lukas Ocilka, Systems Management (Yast) Team Leader SLE Department, SUSE Linux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scout_Promise#Czech_Republic http://www.scouting.org/Visitor/WhyScouting/ServingOthers.aspx -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org