All meeting minutes can be found here: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-meeting The meeting is hosted here https://meet.opensuse.org/ReleaseEngineeringMeeting ## Attendees RBrown, DimStar, lkocman,guillaumeg, anag, adrians, maxlin ## Leap The next hackweek will take place in the week of 6th November. Excited about https://grommunio.com/blog/grommunio-packages-in-opensuse-factory/ Deployments (100k users) like this makes me see the convenience for customer to simply register and migrate Leap to get support from SUSE. I helped NETitworks to apply for SUSE partnership. Meeting minutes: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-20230720-netitwork All reported feature requests against 15.6 were processed. https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features Filed several tasks regarding remaining setup of 15.6 (for QA, IT, autobuild, etc). So we give team enough heads up to e.g. plan for the openqa/maint setup around Beta timeframe, especially with all the work on ALP. Need to request Leap Micro 5.6 setup. Some work on openSUSE-repos to support the try-out CDN https://github.com/openSUSE/news-o-o/pull/180 ## openSUSE Tumbleweed openSUSE:Factory build fail stats: 87 failed 5 unresolvable (last week: 90 failed, 1 unresolvable) https://tinyurl.com/ysy4nnnz * openQA migrated to the new data center; snpashots 0720 - 0723 were not tested/released * kernel 6.4.6 (with ZenBleed fix) in staging, should be available by end of the week * libxml2 2.11.x blocked, as it breaks things like perl-XML-LibXML, * fmt 10 blocked, as it breaks mariadb boo#1213219, ceph boo#1213217 ## Richard (Aeon) Really want to get Aeon's own media out soon, but also taking care not to overwhealm OBS with endless experimental changes while the DC migration leaves us with lower resources So been focused on tidying up some organisational backlog https://aeondesktop.org/bugs is now a nice curated list of all open Aeon bugs. I plan to keep this list well managed in the future, maybe by using bots Feel free to file more bugs https://aeondesktop.org/reportbug Considering a structured approach to handling customisation to Aeon in relation to bug reports https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Aeon/DevelopmentThoughts TL;DR - highest priority will always be given to bug reports from Aeon systems with no altered RPMs. - adding (most) packages from the official TW Repos / NVIDIA will still be supported but at a low priority - adding packages from anywhere else, or known-bad packages from TW Repos, will lead to bug reports from that system being handled with least priority. Userspace and bugzilla bot tooling needs to be written to impliment the above first. ## Richard (ALP Architecture) ALP-Leap-Replacement meeting minutes - https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/weeklymeeting20230725 Summary - Few community discussions in the last month - 2 ongoing experiemntal concepts - Slowroll - basically a slower version of Tumbleweed to be less scary for Leap users - Linarite - basically a narrower, smaller Leap-like distribution, likely with less desktops and fewer packages, formerly GrassyKnoll - Limited progress to the "Slowroll" concept in the last month - No progress on Linraite since GrassyKnoll - Planning on doing a poll with the official election platform for Members only to get some indication as to whether Slowroll, Linarite, or not replacing Leap is where our contribution bases interest lies. Personal Note: Richard is concerned at the apparant lack of contributor interest in these efforts. Without more contributions we're not likely to have a great solution, or maybe any solution, for Leap users ## Max * Leap 15.6 and Backports-SLE15-SP6 are all good, we're lack of build power though, therefore we do only have enabled x86_64 build for now * The required Backports/Leap 15.6 checkers are running on botmaster * I did submitted package update from 15.5:Update and Backports:SLE-15- SP5:Update to 15.6/Backports:SLE-15-SP6 ## Guillaume - Arm Tumbleweed: * Rolling * gcc13 bug leading to build failure of highway (and maybe more) - https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1213647 * shim currently not signed by Microsoft for aarch64 (Tumbleweed only, Leap is fine). It has been sent upstream for review, so it is progressing - https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1211297 * armv6: python-setuptools-rust package fixed, so armv6 is now in better shapes - https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1213005 Leap: * 15.5 aarch64: kernel oops seen on openQA aarch64 workers - https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1213620 * 15.5: port for armv7: containers are currently not building/created. Dirk mentioned that driver in 15.4 was the k3s team. ALP: * shim not signed by MS (at least for aarch64, not sure for x86_64) - jsc#ARM-100 WSL: * Works with x86 emulator since appx installer is x86-64, but this is not really an issue since arm64 Win11 includes x86 emulator by default. Team is ok to publish it on Microsoft store anyway, but this would require some testing in openQA which is currently not possible (due to technical issues and MS licensing issues) https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/126083. Steps documented on the wiki to install the appx from download.o.o: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:WSL#With_Appx_from_openSUSE_download_server ## Sarah - s390x Not available Tumbleweed * running * small test issue related to system profile in the installation Leap: * working * waitingSubmissisions with fixes for gtkd and gnu-cobol: https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/1072852 (waiting for a simple Submit Approval of a Requires since 4 months!) -> Alternative submitting directly to zSystems if Maintainers do not respond -> Resolving https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1209438 https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/1078385 * Sarah is organizing access to IBM Z Security Portal regarding security fixes (Spectre v2and other things) -> waiting * SUSE/openSUSE zSystems meeting has happened * The bi-weeky openSUSE zSystems meeting will switch from 18:00 to 19:00. ## Doug Not available * Sponsorship of LinuxFest NorthWest from previous pre-covid sponsorship carries forward this year * Contact ddemaio if plan to attend or want to run a booth * https://linuxfestnorthwest.org/ * openSUSE Conference 2023 videos complete * Thank you c3voc & openSUSE Video Team * Scheduling video posts on social media * Project Clarity * Establishing a clear understanding of projects within the openSUSE Project umbrella and how new project will be identified, verified to be part of the openSUSE Project * Board will be taking this on (Rancher and Uyuni/SUSE Manager) was discussed in the board meeting earlier this week) * openSUSE.Asia Summit * Registrations 4, Submissions 5 * Talks can be onsite or virtual (recorded). * Deadline is August 20. * Submit your proposal at https://events.opensuse.org/ * openALT / Fall 2023 (invoice based) sponsorship approved by Anicka (10k CZK) - Dirk reminded us about OSCC still having some budget available * Trying to troubleshoot one TSP payments * Community meeting * Worked on project clarity & enhancing info on https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:How_to_contribute_to_Factory * EL Collaboration Meeting changed to once a month. Next is August 31 * GSoC * Mid-term evaluations complete with 100% Friday, July 14, by 18:00 UTC * openSUSE Boxes * Two companies are thinking about restarting with Start-Up Booklet * Stakeholders informed * Need to schedule followup meeting w/netitwork Static * Still need future storage location * AI topics (static) * Scraping of info & how it might affect costs is being dicussed by board * Dirk: There is a OSCC meetup today touching the topic * Board looking into using AI to help with possible moderation *** ddemaio will be unavailable for this meeting until the August 9 meeting starting next week ## Dirk Not available CDN contract with Fastly is signed, Fastly is sponsoring openSUSE project with CDN bandwidth Currently added as fallback mirror for North America, South America and Europe lkocman: Will this affect our download metrics? Dirk: Since we don't track downloads from instances other than download-o-o, and we're not switching download-o-o currently. So pretty much same state as before. Step 15.6/SP6 enablement for armv7 Various package updates like usual Added openSUSE Tumbleweed BCI images (SLE BCI images built for opensuse, available on registry.o.org) Location changed from registry.opensuse.org/bci/* to registry.opensuse.org/opensuse/bci/* BCI non-devel images are now available in openSUSE Registry, images are TW based. ## Wolfgang (Package Hub), Scott Bahling Not available Project openSUSE:Backpors:SLE-15-SP6 created in OBS (currently build disabled because of AC issues in SRV1, more build workers will be added latest tomorrow) Creating release package for SP6 (SUSE:Backports:SLE-15-SP6) today in IBS ## Maintenance team (Marcus or Maurizio (m4u)) Not available No big news Firefox needs updates of dependencies before it can be updated to the current version (Security fixes) libzypp update in 15.5 was fixed by releasing missing dependency. libzypp issue that can be properly addressed only with respin of DVD. See section above for more details. openQA is OK currently. (snapper was fixed) Some 15.5 updates from between freeze and GA need to be released, WIP for Marcus Key rotation: Migration with changed 4k key. Current autoimport solution is not ideal. Marcus will work on update of the opensuse-build-key https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:System_upgrade#0._New_4096_bit_RSA_signing_key Marcus is working also on the SLES side, the update of package with the new key was released last week, it's just not activated yet, but it will be already trusted by Leap 15.5 systems. Leap 15.4 is working Leap Micro 5.3 is working Leap Micro 5.4 testing is now passing as well Leap 16.0 - we should revisit the update/sle repo as the current setup not exactly mirror friendly. Solutions could be dropping not so popular architectures or split repositories per architecture. lkocman: 15.3 EOL could lead to stopping our physical Source DVD effort, as it seems we will not produce. As this was the last release which you could still get on a physical media. Lkocman: anything against decomissioning it? Not a single valid request since I've joined SUSE. We did receive only requests for binary install media which are not subject to ^. We do not plan to offer this for any new releases. ## Adrian - OBS OBS build power is back to normal after fixing misconfiguration which kept workers busy. Servers for OBS is moving to new datacenters until the end of the month of July AC problems in Nüremberg with openQA servers ## Open Floor