All meeting minutes can be found here: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-meeting Meeting is hosted here https://meet.opensuse.org/ReleaseEngineeringMeeting ## Participants Sarah, ddemaio, lkocman, adrians, max, meissner, gp , rbrown (absent, contributed to minutes) ## Leap Migration of docs to https://opensuse.github.io/openSUSE-docs-revamped-temp/index.html are we in scope? no Quite a lot of new features (covering selinux enablement as well) in https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issues TPM Evaluation in progress (for features approved by PM) Next steps with multimedia (survey?) https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issue/22 15.3 Quarterly update setup is still in TODO Leap 15.4 roadmap was published at https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Roadmap ## openSUSE Tumbleweed dleuenberger on FTO - from August 9 - 20 - Richard is covering * TW is has been stuck for most of the week * Problems have been a combination of Richard's house move, OBS issues (refusing to publish/confusing ttm, sporadic vim build failure producing a very broken 0816 snapshot), and the ISO media growing too large to fit on a DVD * All of the issues _appear_ to be fixed and Richard is hopeful for the release of the 0817 snapshot * Snapshot 0818 has also been checked in * Snapshots 0817 and 0818 are larger than usual due to catching up with the backlog from the week long slowdown, but nothing too scary is included - glibc, systemd, kernel mentioned below still haven't passed stagings. * glibc 2.34 staged - still ~27 failures * systemd 249 is in staging, broke two tests, waiting on the maintainer to confirm whether or not the issue is worth blocking further (non- maintainer opinions lean towards letting it through once TW is rolling smoothly again) * kernel 5.13.9 with UsrMerge support in staging ## Richard (Kubic/TW MicroOS) Little MicroOS/Kubic movement due to TW taking all of Richard's time k8s versions 1.22.0 is on the way container-selinux with integrated k3s support from upstream is otw - should facilitate k3s-with-selinux without third party RPMs in the future. Working on adding k3s-install to Kubic, a curated version of the Rancher k3s installation script that negates the need to curl random shell scripts from the internet. ## Max * TW: Struggling with DVD size at the first, then a product build issue. Issues should be fixed. A new build 20210817 was appeared on o3, that's all I know from Richard. * We have first 15.4 builds moved to openqa and being tested. ** Enabled TTM for Leap 15.4 ** Added 15.4 entry to openqa-trigger-from-obs ** Medium settings and jobgroup settings are done for Leap 15.4 * Continue working on obsoleted binary finder - https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-process/issues/75 and https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-process/issues/74, the output https://github.com/nilxam/leap_development/blob/master/scripts/obsoletes_pac... from my script( https://github.com/nilxam/leap_development/blob/master/scripts/obsoletes_fin... ) looks sensible, the next step is merging the result to NON_FTP_PACKAGES.group - a filter list in 000package-groups which will be loaded for pkglistgen ## Guillaume - Arm Will be on FTO - from 9th to 27th of August. Tumbleweed: * installation-images:* are broken for Arm since last update. A fix is in system:install:head/installation-images and will be forwarded to Factory. * Fix for btrfs support in u-boot is on the way to Factory: https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/909899 Leap 15.3: * Armv7: Is good enough to release officialy. The maintenance setup is problematic, so we may not freeze and need to keep a rolling release model. Any opinion? WSL: Stalled: WIP to have WSL on aarch64 on https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/home:Guillaume_G:WSL todo: lkocman to write a blog post how We have a WSL feature for 15 SP4 to have all SUSE/openSUSE images installed from outside of the store "adopt the new behavior". Therefore we wouldn't have to build the WSL-DistroLauncher image any more. ## Sarah - s390x * Problems were with Tumbleweed releases because of kernel bug in several packages ( cross-epiphany-gcc11-bootstrap and gcc): https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1188896 * Bigger kernel bug as thought -> builds blocking Tumbleweed releases A call for help with debugging. Adrian: This might be a VM issue, not necessarily a kernel bug. Let's talk later after the call. * The Open Mainframe Project is collaborating with community distributions now. One representative joined our meeting for that. * bi-weekly training sessions tor topics as mainframes, containerization, packaging: https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/zsystems@lists.opensuse.org/message... * Last training session was about Technical view on the mainframe architecture ## Doug * Sent software.o.o. proposal to be discussed in Thursday meeting * Sent out follow up for those at Fedora Nest/Flock who expressed interest in openSUSE * Regular Meeting * Will be shifting meeting to a weekdayl - https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/weeklymeeting20210724 * Will do a last meeting this Saturday, August 21, from 17:00 to 19:00 UTC (7-9pm CEST) Location: https://meet.opensuse.org/meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/weeklymeeting Will discuss software.o.o. proposal updated and moving membership process to code.o.o. * MOY Survey to be posted on Sept. 20 * GSoC of student evaluations this week and next week is mentor evaluations/project finalized * Summer is Open 2nd. prep meeting is tomorrow: Focus on openSUSE Leap * Consorcium with EU / Healthcare / Data Privacy - If interested, connect ddemaio Gerald: If we're looking for a particular person to work on it that might be more difficult, otherwise volunteers are very welcome. ## Dirk Not present ## Gerald Impressed (about the updates) :-) ## Wolfgang (Package Hub), Scott Bahling Not present A proposal to move all SLE forks to subpackages module/prouduct https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-process/issues/71 This would then fix our problem with submit requests not being forwarded to the correct origin. GAP was removed completly from openSUSE:Backports:SLE-15-SP4 (and therefore from Leap 15.4) Looking into migration scenarious from Leap to SLE that SUSE might support https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:System_upgrade - Covers also migration from Leap X.Y to SLE X.Y ## Maintenance team (Marina or Marcus) No updates for 15.4. The dnf stack update and rpm update was released last week. Please check if this worked out. Issue with i586 architecture missing in Backports:15-SP3:Update. Otherwise openqa is green updates are going through. Just to note that maintenance testing related tasks were added to https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Roadmap Our attempt to eliminate issues with maint updates in GA timeframe. Self update for installer: https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issue/26 The yast installer only supports one update repo for updates. We can either push updates from IBS or OBS. We have to decide whether to support yast or skelcd. I'm not sure if we can have merged repo. Adrian: you can release it via openSUSE:Leap:15.3. This would be a fork. lkocman: Light touch on the topic to display status of SLES updates to community. We can try to find the way to export the data. Marcus: Generally could be possible, but we need to explicitly avoid exposing embargoed security issues to the outside. Also review IP/NDA updates where the schedule is not public. Lubos still needs to talk to Stephan B. Marcus: is there any update on the Leap 15.3 respins. lkocman: Unfortunatelly no, it's currently blocked on me. ## Adrian - CtLG or openSUSE Step Back from vacation Received a response from Red Hat to support OBS as a community project. So I have now finally a RHEL subscription that we can use. So openSUSE is now approved as opensource project. All covered in comments above. Adrian: I had to fix issues in product builder so we won't end up in situation where srpm is missing. We've had this issue by glibc (this would otherwise violate GPL). This would be another reason to rebuild ftp trees. How do we reference to CODE 15. 15.3 was the result of our survey.