On 12/28/2016 09:16 PM, nicholas wrote:
from experience and looking around forums, how to
update tumbleweed correctly
is not obvious, and not clearly presented. The lack of guidence is causing
confusion and problems.
The rest of this post is based on my ASSUMPTION that 'sudo zypper dup --no-
allow-vendor-change' is best practice.
AFAIK, "zypper up" is all you need to do -- Tumbleweed is a rolling
release so there's no distribution version to update to. In fact,
"zypper dup" will probably not do what you want.
That question appears to be talking about a YaST issue. I've been using
"zypper up" for the past year, and it's always kept my system up to date.
in fact, do zypper up/dup really make sense
conceptually or functionally to a
zypper dup does not. It's purpose is to allow you to upgrade between
Leap versions (or to switch between distributions entirely like Leap ->
The question, IF the 'no allow vendor
change' is best practice, should we make
a more accessible command for updating out of the box (i.e. zypper tup/or
other) and should best practices not be better communicated to new users?
I recently had to update a Leap install, and I just followed these
instructions. And even though I'm far from sane when it comes to
keeping my extra repos sane, it still worked properly.
- Is the dup default of allow-vendor-change really
required for leap upgrade?
It shouldn't be, because both vendors are "openSUSE" (IIRC).
[my own learning curve was quite painful, you should
not underestimate the
conceptual overhead to new user of understanding all the zypper ins and outs
regarding 'packages not being updated', 'changing vendor' etc ->
basically expecting the noob to learn *everything* in order to get a working
and reliable system within the first few months]
The YaST issue should be fixed (is there an open bug for it?). However,
I'm not sure that "noobs" is who openSUSE Tumbleweed is targeting -- a
bleeding edge distribution is always going to have some risk of things
not working one day. You can't really expect a "noob" to be able to deal
with those situations. Leap is much more stable for people like that
(and I usually install Leap for people who aren't experts).
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