[opensuse-factory] C implementation of update-alternatives
Hi all, I noticed Debian folks reimplemented the old good update-alternatives command from Perl to C. That means your-favourite-program (like awk or vim) will no longer depends on Perl in openSUSE. Good think is - new implementation is backward compatible, so no changes in %scripts are required, no reinstallation and so. And what is better, the simple %post update-alternatives --install %preun update-alternatives --remove calls would work without a problem, which is the most common use-case. I found only two notable differences: 1.) more verbose by default - considering to change it, as all things are already logged to /var/log/alternatives.log zypper remove java-1_6_0-openjdk Removing java-1_6_0-openjdk-1.6.0.0_b18-1.29 [done] Additional rpm output: update-alternatives: warning: alternative /usr/lib64/jvm/jre-1.6.0- openjdk/bin/java (part of link group java) doesn't exist. Removing from list of alternatives. update-alternatives: warning: alternative /usr/lib64/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk (part of link group jre_openjdk) doesn't exist. Removing from list of alternatives. ... and much more 2.) Don't allow the same slave alternative in more than one - bnc#648260 - even if it's a bug in openjdk packaging I prepared package is in OBS - home:mvyskocil:update-alternatives/update- alternatives [1]. Please test (at least) your package with newest update- alternatives and bug me in case of troubles, thanks. [1] https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=update- alternatives&project=home%3Amvyskocil%3Aupdate-alternatives Following list shows which packages use update-alternatives in some of %script. jsmeix: * gawk gnome-maintainers: * gobby * gobby04 * mozilla-xulrunner192 (pcerny?) * ntfs-3g * PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin * rarian * rarian-scrollkeeper-compat * scrollkeeper * vala makowski.opensuse@gmail.com: * firebird-classic * firebird-superserver hvogel: * gvim * vim werner: * ksh * pdksh mkudlvasr: * lftp * lukemftp pgajdos: * lua * lua50 guido+opensuse.org@berhoerster.name: * mawk mrueckert: * rubygem-rails-2_3 Thanks for your help Michal Vyskocil
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:39:57AM +0200, Michal Vyskocil wrote:
I prepared package is in OBS - home:mvyskocil:update-alternatives/update- alternatives [1]. Please test (at least) your package with newest update- alternatives and bug me in case of troubles, thanks.
During short test I haven't noticed any problems from lua point of view. Petr laura:/> rpm -Uhv lua50-5.0.2-122.x86_64.rpm Preparing... ########################################### [100%] 1:lua50 ########################################### [100%] update-alternatives: using /usr/bin/lua5.0 to provide /usr/bin/lua (lua) in auto mode. laura:/> rpm -Uhv lua-5.1.4-17.x86_64.rpm Preparing... ########################################### [100%] 1:lua ########################################### [100%] update-alternatives: using /usr/bin/lua5.1 to provide /usr/bin/lua (lua) in auto mode.
Michal Vyskocil write:
Hi all,
I noticed Debian folks reimplemented the old good update-alternatives command from Perl to C. That means your-favourite-program (like awk or vim) will no longer depends on Perl in openSUSE.
I think it is useless as perl is required part of opensuse. Kernel depends on kernel :) and for handling such configuration I think is perl good tool.
Good think is - new implementation is backward compatible, so no changes in %scripts are required, no reinstallation and so. And what is better, the simple %post update-alternatives --install %preun update-alternatives --remove calls would work without a problem, which is the most common use-case.
I found only two notable differences:
1.) more verbose by default - considering to change it, as all things are already logged to /var/log/alternatives.log zypper remove java-1_6_0-openjdk Removing java-1_6_0-openjdk-1.6.0.0_b18-1.29 [done] Additional rpm output: update-alternatives: warning: alternative /usr/lib64/jvm/jre-1.6.0- openjdk/bin/java (part of link group java) doesn't exist. Removing from list of alternatives. update-alternatives: warning: alternative /usr/lib64/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk (part of link group jre_openjdk) doesn't exist. Removing from list of alternatives. ... and much more
2.) Don't allow the same slave alternative in more than one - bnc#648260 - even if it's a bug in openjdk packaging
I prepared package is in OBS - home:mvyskocil:update-alternatives/update- alternatives [1]. Please test (at least) your package with newest update- alternatives and bug me in case of troubles, thanks.
[1] https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=update- alternatives&project=home%3Amvyskocil%3Aupdate-alternatives
Following list shows which packages use update-alternatives in some of %script.
jsmeix: * gawk
gnome-maintainers: * gobby * gobby04 * mozilla-xulrunner192 (pcerny?) * ntfs-3g * PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin * rarian * rarian-scrollkeeper-compat * scrollkeeper * vala
makowski.opensuse@gmail.com: * firebird-classic * firebird-superserver
hvogel: * gvim * vim
werner: * ksh * pdksh
mkudlvasr: * lftp * lukemftp
pgajdos: * lua * lua50
guido+opensuse.org@berhoerster.name: * mawk
mrueckert: * rubygem-rails-2_3
Thanks for your help Michal Vyskocil
-- Josef Reidinger Appliance Toolkit team maintainer of perl-Bootloader, yast2-bootloader and parts of webyast and SLMS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 22 of October 2010 15:10:45 Josef Reidinger wrote:
Michal Vyskocil write:
Hi all,
I noticed Debian folks reimplemented the old good update-alternatives command from Perl to C. That means your-favourite-program (like awk or vim) will no longer depends on Perl in openSUSE.
I think it is useless as perl is required part of opensuse. Kernel depends on kernel :)
This is not a plan to remove Perl from SUSE - just following upstream. But it's nice the C implementation removed an unecessary and maybe surprising dependency of some packages on Perl.
and for handling such configuration I think is perl good tool.
Maybe SUSE hackers are the last who thinks that ;-). For example the original update-alternatives has been rewritten three times (afaics) - chkconfig in RedHat has C program called alternatives - alternatives.sf.net is ispired and written in shell/awk by ALT Linux - Debian switched to C based implementation recently Regards Michal Vyskocil
Good think is - new implementation is backward compatible, so no changes in %scripts are required, no reinstallation and so. And what is better, the simple %post update-alternatives --install %preun update-alternatives --remove calls would work without a problem, which is the most common use-case.
I found only two notable differences:
1.) more verbose by default - considering to change it, as all things are already logged to /var/log/alternatives.log zypper remove java-1_6_0-openjdk Removing java-1_6_0-openjdk-1.6.0.0_b18-1.29 [done] Additional rpm output: update-alternatives: warning: alternative /usr/lib64/jvm/jre-1.6.0- openjdk/bin/java (part of link group java) doesn't exist. Removing from list of alternatives. update-alternatives: warning: alternative /usr/lib64/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk (part of link group jre_openjdk) doesn't exist. Removing from list of alternatives. ... and much more
2.) Don't allow the same slave alternative in more than one - bnc#648260 - even if it's a bug in openjdk packaging
I prepared package is in OBS - home:mvyskocil:update-alternatives/update- alternatives [1]. Please test (at least) your package with newest update- alternatives and bug me in case of troubles, thanks.
[1] https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=update- alternatives&project=home%3Amvyskocil%3Aupdate-alternatives
Following list shows which packages use update-alternatives in some of %script.
jsmeix: * gawk
gnome-maintainers: * gobby * gobby04 * mozilla-xulrunner192 (pcerny?) * ntfs-3g * PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin * rarian * rarian-scrollkeeper-compat * scrollkeeper * vala
makowski.opensuse@gmail.com: * firebird-classic * firebird-superserver
hvogel: * gvim * vim
werner: * ksh * pdksh
mkudlvasr: * lftp * lukemftp
pgajdos: * lua * lua50
guido+opensuse.org@berhoerster.name: * mawk
mrueckert: * rubygem-rails-2_3
Thanks for your help Michal Vyskocil
participants (3)
-
Josef Reidinger -
Michal Vyskocil -
Petr Gajdos