[opensuse-factory] Status: Distribution
Hi, Unnoticed by many, we hit an important milestone: The start of my christmas vacation was also the start of the feature freeze. So we already see an increased number of "can I update FOO" discussions on this mailing list :) To avoid having to answer it a hundred times: The feature freeze is not black & white. What it means is that the before that date we update all packages to gain as many features as possible, after that we update only packages that are broken. So for every update I would love to have a justifcation to change it, balancing risks and benefits. I might not need to remind you, but we were a bit too lax with it for 12.2, so I for sure will hit the break more often this time. But it also means that I have no problem updating packages that bear little risks - _IF_ the submitter thought about the risks too and included testing in his justification. Factory itself does not shine, but is in a rather acceptable state for a freshly started stabilizing phase, heck we even have the latest perl! :) The bug reports for failing packages caused quite some action, thanks to Cristian for that. Right now we have around 50 failing packages, we had over 100 at that point of time for 12.2, so I'm pretty confident we won't run into delay issues. I still would like to finish the switch to 1G USB sticks for live media, hopefully for Beta1 - which *another suprise to many I assume* is planned for next week. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue 08 Jan 2013 01:54:29 PM CST, Stephan Kulow wrote:
Hi,
Unnoticed by many, we hit an important milestone: The start of my christmas vacation was also the start of the feature freeze. So we already see an increased number of "can I update FOO" discussions on this mailing list :)
To avoid having to answer it a hundred times: The feature freeze is not black & white. What it means is that the before that date we update all packages to gain as many features as possible, after that we update only packages that are broken. So for every update I would love to have a justifcation to change it, balancing risks and benefits.
I might not need to remind you, but we were a bit too lax with it for 12.2, so I for sure will hit the break more often this time. But it also means that I have no problem updating packages that bear little risks - _IF_ the submitter thought about the risks too and included testing in his justification.
Factory itself does not shine, but is in a rather acceptable state for a freshly started stabilizing phase, heck we even have the latest perl! :)
The bug reports for failing packages caused quite some action, thanks to Cristian for that. Right now we have around 50 failing packages, we had over 100 at that point of time for 12.2, so I'm pretty confident we won't run into delay issues.
I still would like to finish the switch to 1G USB sticks for live media, hopefully for Beta1 - which *another suprise to many I assume* is planned for next week.
Greetings, Stephan
Hi Are there any plans for the USB images to be efi bootable as well as normal (eg BIOS)? -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890) openSUSE 12.2 (x86_64) Kernel 3.4.11-2.16-desktop up 17:28, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05 CPU Intel® i5 CPU M520@2.40GHz | GPU Intel® Ironlake Mobile -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 08.01.2013 19:58, schrieb Malcolm:
Are there any plans for the USB images to be efi bootable as well as normal (eg BIOS)?
I have no idea what that involves. Right now our live cds use isolinux. Perhaps kiwi already supports it and we just have to enable an option? Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue 08 Jan 2013 20:57:15 Stephan Kulow wrote:
Am 08.01.2013 19:58, schrieb Malcolm:
Are there any plans for the USB images to be efi bootable as well as normal (eg BIOS)?
it seems was discussed in the summer. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=771327 Alin -- Without Questions there are no Answers! ______________________________________________________________________ Alin Marin ELENA Advanced Molecular Simulation Research Laboratory School of Physics, University College Dublin ---- Ardionsamblú Móilíneach Saotharlann Taighde Scoil na Fisice, An Coláiste Ollscoile, Baile Átha Cliath ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://alin.elenaworld.net ______________________________________________________________________
On Tue 08 Jan 2013 08:02:33 PM CST, Alin M Elena wrote:
On Tue 08 Jan 2013 20:57:15 Stephan Kulow wrote:
Am 08.01.2013 19:58, schrieb Malcolm:
Are there any plans for the USB images to be efi bootable as well as normal (eg BIOS)?
it seems was discussed in the summer.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?idw1327
Alin
Hi Alin idw1327? Doesn't return anything for me...? -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890) openSUSE 12.2 (x86_64) Kernel 3.4.11-2.16-desktop up 19:32, 3 users, load average: 3.06, 2.52, 1.38 CPU Intel® i5 CPU M520@2.40GHz | GPU Intel® Ironlake Mobile -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
idw1327? Doesn't return anything for me...?
sloppy pasting sorry https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=771327 -- Without Questions there are no Answers! ______________________________________________________________________ Alin Marin ELENA Advanced Molecular Simulation Research Laboratory School of Physics, University College Dublin ---- Ardionsamblú Móilíneach Saotharlann Taighde Scoil na Fisice, An Coláiste Ollscoile, Baile Átha Cliath ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://alin.elenaworld.net ______________________________________________________________________
On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 21:06:19 +0000
Alin M Elena
idw1327? Doesn't return anything for me...?
sloppy pasting sorry https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?idw1327
This one? https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=771327 -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue 08 Jan 2013 07:41:38 PM CST, Rajko wrote:
On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 21:06:19 +0000 Alin M Elena
wrote: idw1327? Doesn't return anything for me...?
sloppy pasting sorry https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?idw1327
This one?
Hi That looks like a candidate, closed though :( Unfortunately if your system UEFI can't browse to the efi file or not have a dvd player (eg ultrabooks) you can't install.... yes there are work arounds, but only with the dvd not live cd's. At present I have to create an efi partition on a usb disk, dd the efi image to an ef partition to get an ELILO boot and then dd the dvd to a separate partition and then use the ncurses routine to get the install started.... -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890) openSUSE 12.2 (x86_64) Kernel 3.4.11-2.16-desktop up 1 day 1:28, 3 users, load average: 1.37, 0.38, 0.16 CPU Intel® i5 CPU M520@2.40GHz | GPU Intel® Ironlake Mobile -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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Alin M Elena
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Malcolm
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Rajko
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Stephan Kulow