On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 12:43:10 +0200 Raymond Wooninck wrote:

On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 06:25:18 Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a DimStar wrote:

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Quoting Stephan Kulow :

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Hi,

I'll upload Beta2 any time soon (build451 basically) and after that create and bootstrap openSUSE:12.2

So what we currently have in Factory starts to be come 'usable' for most users? Good stuff.

Does anybody knows what the status is of YaST and Zypper ? Were the issues resolved or do we still not have a fully working package management ?

As of build 448 - the last I tested - Yast still crashed when I tried deleting a package. Just tried build 551 KDE liveCD and cannot install from the "installation" step on the CD - "failed to start LSB: X Display Manager." -- Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks. openSUSE 12.1 (64-bit); KDE 4.8.4; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor; Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nouveau driver); Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:08:50 +0200 Stephan Kulow wrote:

On 20.06.2012 12:56, Graham P Davis wrote:

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As of build 448 - the last I tested - Yast still crashed when I tried deleting a package.

Please tell me your bug number, so we can track it.

I hadn't raised a bug report as I'd seen numerous comments here about it before I tripped over the problem and assumed one had already been raised. However, I do remember searching Bugzilla to see whether that was indeed the case but can't recall the result; I suspect that, as usual, most of what was returned had absolutely no relevance to my search. I see Angelos has now raised a report - https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=767885 - thanks, Angelos. -- Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks. openSUSE 12.1 (64-bit); KDE 4.8.4; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor; Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nouveau driver); Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 06/20/2012 02:11 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:

On 06/20/2012 01:56 PM, Graham P Davis wrote:

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On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 12:43:10 +0200 Raymond Wooninck wrote:

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On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 06:25:18 Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a DimStar wrote:

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Quoting Stephan Kulow:

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Hi,

I'll upload Beta2 any time soon (build451 basically) and after that create and bootstrap openSUSE:12.2 So what we currently have in Factory starts to be come 'usable' for most users? Good stuff. Does anybody knows what the status is of YaST and Zypper ? Were the issues resolved or do we still not have a fully working package management ?

As of build 448 - the last I tested - Yast still crashed when I tried deleting a package.

Just tried build 551 KDE liveCD and cannot install from the "installation" step on the CD - "failed to start LSB: X Display Manager."

Hi,

I am currently testing YaST and so far I got a problem installing GNOME from Patterns (reported on testing list). Also I confirm that it crashes when removing a package.

Angelos

I have created this bug report here: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=767885 -- Angelos Tzotsos Remote Sensing Laboratory National Technical University of Athens http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:05:26 +0200 Stephan Kulow wrote:

On 20.06.2012 12:43, Raymond Wooninck wrote:

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On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 06:25:18 Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a DimStar wrote:

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Quoting Stephan Kulow :

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Hi,

I'll upload Beta2 any time soon (build451 basically) and after that create and bootstrap openSUSE:12.2

So what we currently have in Factory starts to be come 'usable' for most users? Good stuff.

Does anybody knows what the status is of YaST and Zypper ? Were the issues resolved or do we still not have a fully working package management ?

I doubt we have a "fully working" package management - taking that so far a lot of the tools crashed when started, so they can't have seen real testing.

But zypper does not give me issues

Greetings, Stephan

YaST should be fixed now in YaST:Head. We are now solving just minor packaging issue (two source packages) and then create sr to factory. Failing yast2-qt-package is in investigation what is wrong. Josef -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:23 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:

I'm planning to jump on the downloads as soon as they're available. Tentative test schedule:

1. Build a VM of the 64-bit KDE LiveCD / install to hard drive with both KVM and VirtualBox. See if KDE is still sending me to the KDE bug tracker. 2. Upgrade 12.1 partition on old 64-bit / NVidia workstation to 12.2 beta2. Is the upgrade process "eligible for bug filing?" If not, I'll do a re-install. 3. Update the repositories and test everything in https://github.com/znmeb/Computational-Journalism-Server/tree/master/Worksta...

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So far things are looking pretty good. The KDE LiveCD booted and installed flawlessly in a KVM virtual machine without sending me to the KDE bug tracker when I changed the date and time formats. That's a big win! Upgrade of a 12.1 via booting the DVD ISO from a USB stick also worked without a hitch. I couldn't find the "Network" installer. That's not a big deal - it's so slow I rarely use it. -- Twitter: http://twitter.com/znmeb Computational Journalism Server http://j.mp/compjournoserver Data is the new coal - abundant, dirty and difficult to mine. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 25/06/12 17:52, Larry Stotler wrote:

On 6/20/12, Stephan Kulow wrote: I'll upload Beta2 any time soon (build451 basically) and after

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that create and bootstrap openSUSE:12.2 Tested this(32bit) on an AthlonXP 1700+(1.46Ghz) with 1GB RAM, Radeon 9200, 100GB HD

When in the "System Probing" screen(can we come up with a better term?), it hangs at 60%, "Search for Linux partitions", it hangs.

Alt-F4 shows it constantly givinh Buffer I/O errors on FD0. No Floppy in the machine. BIOS showed it had a floppy installed.

After that, the install went as expected. However, approx 50 packages did not install, so on initial startup, there was no GUI. Running "startx" failed.

Starting the package manager from YaST brought up a dialog about the failed packages, which where then installed. Running "init 3" & "init 5" brought up KDE4 login and logged into the desktop. Starting up the desktop the first time was REALLY slow. Almost 30 seconds before I could do anything, and then the welcome screen popped up.

Obviously, this is pretty low end hardware. KDE4 was very sluggish. Firefox worked as ecpected. Java applets loaded & ran(I used the Argonne National Laboratory speed test at ntd.anl.gov:7123).

Time was off by 4 hours(slow). I had selected NY Time zone & local time & verified time during install. Had to change the time manually to fix.

Dolphin detected 2 DIRECTV2PC servers upon startup but didn't do anything when I click on either of them.

WIll test more later,

In other words, "Business as usual." O:-) I downloaded the 86_64 DVD of Beta 2 Build #452 yesterday and installed it. I wouldn't have got anywhere if I hadn't been around openSUSE before and haven't been reading the pitfalls mentioned in Factory etc. The main installation part was made difficult by green graphics covering the screen/menus but which could be wiped momentarily by moving the cursor over the area (like the Eraser in GIMP, say); however, only previous experience made it possible to work out what the text was under the briefly removed green blurb. But the real crunch came when the initial part of the installation was finished and the system had to reboot to complete the installation. At this point the whole sheebang stopped doing anything - no messages, no action.... Only past experience suggested that I reboot and when I did the whole thing hung with a black screen. Once again past experience prompted to boot the thing using SAFE MODE which then allowed the installation to complete because I had graphics to look at. (BTW, and I know that this has been asked before and the solution given, namely, to remove and then replace the Taskbar with a new one (but this does NOT work in Beta 2) but how does one get rid of the 2 little icons for Dolphin and Firefox in the Taskbar? The darn things keep coming back like a bad smell everytime one restarts the computer :-( .) BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.8.4 and kernel 3.4.3 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

1. There's some kind of YaST / Plymouth conflict during installs as noted in https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=768185. Adding "nomodeset" to the Linux command allows installation to complete but it's ugly. 2. GRUB2 is depositing a file in /etc/default/grub that points at non-existent files and specifies unreasonable monitor resolutions in some cases. I couldn't find this one in Bugzilla so I'll probably have to file it myself. 3. There are a number of KDE bugs that are getting captured by the KDE bug reporting tool and sending me into the KDE bug tracker to file reports. Is that something that needs to be reported in the openSUSE Bugzilla? They are, after all, upstream bugs by definition and many appear to be known in KDE's bug tracker. By way of comparison, when Fedora Beefy Miracle encounters a bug, its Automatic Bug Reporting Tool performs a similar action but sends me to the *Red Hat* Bugzilla! 4. A few packages aren't yet available in Factory repositories that were available in OBS for 12.1. The only actual bug I've found is that an incorrect version of libquadmath is shipping, causing a conflict when you try to install gcc-fortran. I'll file that one today. -- Twitter: http://twitter.com/znmeb Computational Journalism Server http://j.mp/compjournoserver Data is the new coal - abundant, dirty and difficult to mine. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org