[opensuse-factory] Suspend function in openSUSE 10.3 and 11.0
I notice that 11.0 RC1 doesn't have a suspend function in the shutdown menu. Hopefully this will appear in the public release version and hopefully it will work on my PC - the suspend function for my 10.3 installation does not work, it starts the process then seems to get lost somewhere and I have to do a hard reset. I also have an installation of Kubuntu 8.04 on the same PC which has the fastest suspend function I have come across - it shuts down in about 5 seconds and resume is pretty good too. Please can we have something similar in 11.0. Regards Peter McPherson --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 05.06.2008 at 16:36, Peter McPherson <mcphrsp@aol.com> wrote: I notice that 11.0 RC1 doesn't have a suspend function in the shutdown menu. Hopefully this will appear in the public release version and hopefully it will work on my PC - the suspend function for my 10.3 installation does not work, it starts the process then seems to get lost somewhere and I have to do a hard reset. I also have an installation of Kubuntu 8.04 on the same PC which has the fastest suspend function I have come across - it shuts down in about 5 seconds and resume is pretty good too. Please can we have something similar in 11.0.
I think you speak up a bit to late to have anything added or changed to 11.0. At best, you can get it in the next version, probably called 11.1. But: you might as well just have luck and it will work... Dominique --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Peter McPherson kirjoitti:
I notice that 11.0 RC1 doesn't have a suspend function in the shutdown menu. Hopefully this will appear in the public release version and hopefully it will work on my PC - the suspend function for my 10.3 installation does not work, it starts the process then seems to get lost somewhere and I have to do a hard reset. I also have an installation of Kubuntu 8.04 on the same PC which has the fastest suspend function I have come across - it shuts down in about 5 seconds and resume is pretty good too. Please can we have something similar in 11.0.
i have 2 suspend options in my kickoff menu, using KDE4. J-O.E --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 05. Juni 2008 07:06:15 schrieb Jan-Olof Eriksson:
i have 2 suspend options in my kickoff menu, using KDE4.
Same here, albeit suspend does not work on any of my computers since openSUSE 10.2. Talk about regression :( -- Gruß Andreas --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2008-06-05 at 08:59 -0700, Andreas wrote:
Same here, albeit suspend does not work on any of my computers since openSUSE 10.2. Talk about regression :(
And did you report it on bugzilla? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFISDWqtTMYHG2NR9URArvSAJ97zoEL73vsHlzGfLeS+cu628ERDwCcDujt UxMfXWvyterMRzcVwzoorz0= =+vUe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 05. Juni 2008 11:51:22 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
The Thursday 2008-06-05 at 08:59 -0700, Andreas wrote:
Same here, albeit suspend does not work on any of my computers since openSUSE 10.2. Talk about regression :(
And did you report it on bugzilla?
Nope. I just wouldn't know how to get what kind of information to file a substantiated bug report in this case. -- Gruß Andreas --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2008-06-05 at 18:43 -0700, Andreas wrote:
And did you report it on bugzilla?
Nope. I just wouldn't know how to get what kind of information to file a substantiated bug report in this case.
They should tell you what they need. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFISSSvtTMYHG2NR9URAtNYAJ9lKH9tteoZfoQURk44QotQSqhfpACcCDHf DnJJ8S4GX7PJMLieVnzlpOk= =xES4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
The Thursday 2008-06-05 at 18:43 -0700, Andreas wrote:
And did you report it on bugzilla?
Nope. I just wouldn't know how to get what kind of information to file a substantiated bug report in this case.
They should tell you what they need.
I think the big problem Linux faces getting ACPI to work is that every DSDT appears to be different, and to have different bugs. I have three computers new enough to have fully functional ACPI under Win-XP[1], but none of them work correctly with Linux. (One of them used to sort of work back with SuSE 7.*, or 8.* [2] but stopped working as Linux ACPI got more particular about the quality of the DSDT it had to work with). Decompiling, then recompiling their DSDT's without major corrections produces large numbers of errors and warnings (different for all three). What is needed more than hundreds of bugzilla filings about broken ACPI, is a self-help mailing list or Wiki for debugging DSDT's, because the openSUSE ACPI team's attempt to development a cure for all computers ACPI problems is rather futile at this point. [1] I do _not_ use Win-XP, and "fully functional" is defined here as meaning "every tenth hibernation or so, the computer fails to come back to life". [2] "Sort of work": several times while powering off, Linux sent the bios into an illegal state which required a call to the manufacturer's help line in order to learn a technique to perform a special reset which requires long flexible fingers on one hand, and extreme dexterity with the other. I also suspect that Linux fried the battery (but it continues to work well on AC power, so that doesn't bother me too much.) PS: I only really require that Linux be able to use ACPI to power off my computers, which it does quite well. But I am slightly worried about using Linux on one of the computers because Linux cannot read the temperature, and the fan stopped going into high speed mode around openSUSE-10.1. I noticed several ACPI fan bugs on bugzilla, and not wishing to file a duplicate, joined in -- the bugs immediately went totally silent, and haven't had a new posting since! (I am not complaining mind you, just adding this in to emphasize how overworked the ACPI people are.) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Wiki for getting suspend to ram/disk to work: http://en.opensuse.org/S2ram Good luck! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 13:10 -0400, Mark Gray wrote:
Wiki for getting suspend to ram/disk to work:
for a better wiki organization, shouldn't this page be under HowTos/? -- Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo@novell.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo@novell.com> wrote:
On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 13:10 -0400, Mark Gray wrote:
Wiki for getting suspend to ram/disk to work:
for a better wiki organization, shouldn't this page be under HowTos/?
There is a link to it on http://en.opensuse.org/HOWTOs -- but I would never have gone looking for it there had I not seen it mentioned in a bugzilla report recently. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2008-06-05 at 14:36 +0100, Peter McPherson wrote:
I notice that 11.0 RC1 doesn't have a suspend function in the shutdown menu. Hopefully this will appear in the public release version and hopefully it will work on my PC - the suspend function for my 10.3 installation does not work, it starts the process then seems to get lost somewhere and I have to do a hard reset. I also have an installation of Kubuntu 8.04 on the same PC which has the fastest suspend function I have come across - it shuts down in about 5 seconds and resume is pretty good too. Please can we have something similar in 11.0.
No, the functions appears and dissapears depending on whether the software thinks your machine is capable or not of suspending. The manual command to suspend to disk is "powersave -U" as root. Switch to one of the texts console, issue that command, and see what happens. But before that, edit the file "/etc/suspend.conf", and change "splash = y" with "splash = n", so that if it hangs you can see where. If your machine fails, report your problem to Bugzilla, mentioning that it works fine in kubuntu. If it works, but the menu is off, report that other problem to bugzilla,, mentioning that you can hibernate manually, but not from the menu. These problems have to be solved one by one, but they will not be solved unless you tell the developpers about them. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFISDVwtTMYHG2NR9URAulZAJ9g/1rqKaxf1HthTuGsdK1khplCVQCdHCfA 8Q7wdnZ49/bHPyyhNCj1/Fo= =PIHC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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Andreas
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Carlos E. R.
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Dominique Leuenberger
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Jan-Olof Eriksson
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Mark Gray
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Peter McPherson
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Rodrigo Moya