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Christoph Thiel

16 Sep 2008 16 Sep '08

14:26

Hi everyone, we don't have any Beta1 test builds yet, since we had to trigger a complete rebuild very late in the process -- therefore we are still bootstrapping the distribution and expect first test builds sometime tomorrow. I'll keep you posted on the upcoming Beta1 release! Best, Christoph -- Christoph Thiel, Tech. Project Management, Research & Development SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

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Christoph Thiel

18 Sep 18 Sep

15:36

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 01:26:52PM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote:

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Hi everyone,

we don't have any Beta1 test builds yet, since we had to trigger a complete rebuild very late in the process -- therefore we are still bootstrapping the distribution and expect first test builds sometime tomorrow. I'll keep you posted on the upcoming Beta1 release!

Since we are still working on getting an installable build done, we won't be able to release Beta1 today. I'll post an update on our progress later. Best, Christoph -- Christoph Thiel, Tech. Project Management, Research & Development SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Vincent Untz

15:59

Le jeudi 18 septembre 2008, à 14:36 +0200, Christoph Thiel a écrit :

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On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 01:26:52PM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote:

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Hi everyone,

we don't have any Beta1 test builds yet, since we had to trigger a complete rebuild very late in the process -- therefore we are still bootstrapping the distribution and expect first test builds sometime tomorrow. I'll keep you posted on the upcoming Beta1 release!

Since we are still working on getting an installable build done, we won't be able to release Beta1 today. I'll post an update on our progress later.

Just wondering: I don't know why we don't have an installable build yet, but are we noting the reasons somewhere so that we can make sure it won't happen in the next cycle? Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Test

16:19

Am Donnerstag 18 September 2008 14:59:05 schrieb Vincent Untz:

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Le jeudi 18 septembre 2008, à 14:36 +0200, Christoph Thiel a écrit :

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On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 01:26:52PM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote:

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Hi everyone,

we don't have any Beta1 test builds yet, since we had to trigger a complete rebuild very late in the process -- therefore we are still bootstrapping the distribution and expect first test builds sometime tomorrow. I'll keep you posted on the upcoming Beta1 release!

Since we are still working on getting an installable build done, we won't be able to release Beta1 today. I'll post an update on our progress later.

Just wondering: I don't know why we don't have an installable build yet, but are we noting the reasons somewhere so that we can make sure it won't happen in the next cycle?

Dito, no Alpha2 cd, no Alpha 3 release, broken update (zypper...) and then alpha3+ kernel, and now beta release somwhere in development. What causes all this? What can be changed for 11.2? Daniel

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Andreas Jaeger

17:37

Vincent Untz writes:

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Le jeudi 18 septembre 2008, à 14:36 +0200, Christoph Thiel a écrit :

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On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 01:26:52PM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote:

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Hi everyone,

we don't have any Beta1 test builds yet, since we had to trigger a complete rebuild very late in the process -- therefore we are still bootstrapping the distribution and expect first test builds sometime tomorrow. I'll keep you posted on the upcoming Beta1 release!

Since we are still working on getting an installable build done, we won't be able to release Beta1 today. I'll post an update on our progress later.

Just wondering: I don't know why we don't have an installable build yet, but are we noting the reasons somewhere so that we can make sure it won't happen in the next cycle?

A couple of reasons so far: * changes in the build environment (no, we should not do them so late - should be one-time thing) * features that are late and not tested * packages submitted to factory that do not build (including some submitted from the build service that did not even build there!) * the usual bugs you always have but we find them later than normal this time For some of these (last minute changes) it's difficult to do something. And you also need to declare a fixpoint to get everything in, you cannot move for ever... It's not too bad from my experience - it just shows that there is little buffer from submission to release of media, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, aj@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

Stephan Kulow

19 Sep 19 Sep

12:27

Am Donnerstag 18 September 2008 schrieb Vincent Untz:

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Le jeudi 18 septembre 2008, à 14:36 +0200, Christoph Thiel a écrit :

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On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 01:26:52PM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote:

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Hi everyone,

we don't have any Beta1 test builds yet, since we had to trigger a complete rebuild very late in the process -- therefore we are still bootstrapping the distribution and expect first test builds sometime tomorrow. I'll keep you posted on the upcoming Beta1 release!

Since we are still working on getting an installable build done, we won't be able to release Beta1 today. I'll post an update on our progress later.

Just wondering: I don't know why we don't have an installable build yet, but are we noting the reasons somewhere so that we can make sure it won't happen in the next cycle?

I guess the biggest mistake we keep on repeating: promising release dates of betas :) Integrating such a big project as a linux distribution is a pretty unpredictable process, so it's a miracle we manage the thursday that often. Greetings, Stephan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Hans Petter Jansson

24 Sep 24 Sep

03:51

On Fri, 2008-09-19 at 11:27 +0200, Stephan Kulow wrote:

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Am Donnerstag 18 September 2008 schrieb Vincent Untz:

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Just wondering: I don't know why we don't have an installable build yet, but are we noting the reasons somewhere so that we can make sure it won't happen in the next cycle?

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I guess the biggest mistake we keep on repeating: promising release dates of betas :)

Integrating such a big project as a linux distribution is a pretty unpredictable process, so it's a miracle we manage the thursday that often.

In a perfect world I would have liked to have automatic, nightly media builds - or medias built automatically whenever the distribution is in a consistent state. Another idea would be to keep a repository that's always consistent, and a mechanism for identifying sets of packages that can be copied from the development repo to the consistent repo without breaking dependency consistency. I don't think this is impossible - there are other distributions out there that publish nightly media builds. Maybe there's something we can learn from those. -- Hans Petter --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Adrian Schröter

08:49

On Wednesday 24 September 2008 02:51:28 wrote Hans Petter Jansson:

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On Fri, 2008-09-19 at 11:27 +0200, Stephan Kulow wrote:

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Am Donnerstag 18 September 2008 schrieb Vincent Untz:

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Just wondering: I don't know why we don't have an installable build yet, but are we noting the reasons somewhere so that we can make sure it won't happen in the next cycle?

I guess the biggest mistake we keep on repeating: promising release dates of betas :)

Integrating such a big project as a linux distribution is a pretty unpredictable process, so it's a miracle we manage the thursday that often.

In a perfect world I would have liked to have automatic, nightly media builds - or medias built automatically whenever the distribution is in a consistent state.

Another idea would be to keep a repository that's always consistent, and a mechanism for identifying sets of packages that can be copied from the development repo to the consistent repo without breaking dependency consistency.

I don't think this is impossible - there are other distributions out there that publish nightly media builds. Maybe there's something we can learn from those.

What do you think is our Factory lacking here ? It is synced out only after nothing more is to build. Of course, if there is something broken inside, it gets synced out, until someone is fixing it. bye adrian -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) email: adrian@suse.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Hans Petter Jansson

08:54

On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 07:49 +0200, Adrian Schröter wrote:

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On Wednesday 24 September 2008 02:51:28 wrote Hans Petter Jansson:

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I don't think this is impossible - there are other distributions out there that publish nightly media builds. Maybe there's something we can learn from those.

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What do you think is our Factory lacking here ?

It is synced out only after nothing more is to build. Of course, if there is something broken inside, it gets synced out, until someone is fixing it.

Of course, problems that can't be detected automatically (e.g. bad patches, bad upstream code and some classes of packaging bugs) will still get in - but dependency problems and packages that don't build at all still show up in the official Factory repos, and we can detect those. This makes me wonder if we couldn't establish a repo on top of the "breakable" one, which would automatically pull in packages that build successfully and don't cause any dependency problems (pulling sets of packages together when necessary to maintain dependencies). That repo will then always be consistent with itself, although it may contain older packages in some cases. We could then generate installation media from that repo - and since many types of problems are already fixed (everything builds, all dependencies are satisfied, there are no file conflicts), we could do so more frequently. Maybe I'm just being a dreamer here - the whole release process is a bit mysterious to me. -- Hans Petter --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Adrian Schröter

10:19

On Wednesday 24 September 2008 07:54:28 wrote Hans Petter Jansson:

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On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 07:49 +0200, Adrian Schröter wrote:

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On Wednesday 24 September 2008 02:51:28 wrote Hans Petter Jansson:

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I don't think this is impossible - there are other distributions out there that publish nightly media builds. Maybe there's something we can learn from those.

What do you think is our Factory lacking here ?

It is synced out only after nothing more is to build. Of course, if there is something broken inside, it gets synced out, until someone is fixing it.

Of course, problems that can't be detected automatically (e.g. bad patches, bad upstream code and some classes of packaging bugs) will still get in - but dependency problems and packages that don't build at all still show up in the official Factory repos, and we can detect those.

This makes me wonder if we couldn't establish a repo on top of the "breakable" one, which would automatically pull in packages that build successfully and don't cause any dependency problems (pulling sets of packages together when necessary to maintain dependencies). That repo will then always be consistent with itself, although it may contain older packages in some cases.

These are our devel projects, each package has one. For example changes on the KDE stack are taken from KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop.

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We could then generate installation media from that repo - and since many types of problems are already fixed (everything builds, all dependencies are satisfied, there are no file conflicts), we could do so more frequently.

You can do so, just apply the devel projects in addition to that in the product definition/kiwi. However, I can promise you, when apply all, you will never have a working system ;) bye adrian -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) email: adrian@suse.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Hans Petter Jansson

09:27

On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 09:19 +0200, Adrian Schröter wrote:

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On Wednesday 24 September 2008 07:54:28 wrote Hans Petter Jansson:

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On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 07:49 +0200, Adrian Schröter wrote:

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This makes me wonder if we couldn't establish a repo on top of the "breakable" one, which would automatically pull in packages that build successfully and don't cause any dependency problems (pulling sets of packages together when necessary to maintain dependencies). That repo will then always be consistent with itself, although it may contain older packages in some cases.

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These are our devel projects, each package has one. For example changes on the KDE stack are taken from KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop.

Ok - so when a package is pushed from the devel project to openSUSE:Factory, it is guaranteed to build and not have broken dependencies in the context of openSUSE:Factory? Is there an automatic check for this?

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We could then generate installation media from that repo - and since many types of problems are already fixed (everything builds, all dependencies are satisfied, there are no file conflicts), we could do so more frequently.

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You can do so, just apply the devel projects in addition to that in the product definition/kiwi. However, I can promise you, when apply all, you will never have a working system ;)

I feel like we're talking past each other here :) If openSUSE:Factory is guaranteed to always be building and have working dependencies, and devel projects aren't, I'd draw the packages from openSUSE:Factory, obviously. By the way, is there a good, up-to-date wiki page on how the ISOs are made, from start to finish? -- Hans Petter --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Adrian Schröter

11:01

On Wednesday 24 September 2008 08:27:36 wrote Hans Petter Jansson:

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On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 09:19 +0200, Adrian Schröter wrote:

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On Wednesday 24 September 2008 07:54:28 wrote Hans Petter Jansson:

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On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 07:49 +0200, Adrian Schröter wrote:

This makes me wonder if we couldn't establish a repo on top of the "breakable" one, which would automatically pull in packages that build successfully and don't cause any dependency problems (pulling sets of packages together when necessary to maintain dependencies). That repo will then always be consistent with itself, although it may contain older packages in some cases.

These are our devel projects, each package has one. For example changes on the KDE stack are taken from KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop.

Ok - so when a package is pushed from the devel project to openSUSE:Factory, it is guaranteed to build and not have broken dependencies in the context of openSUSE:Factory? Is there an automatic check for this?

It is not guaranteed, but it can checked before. This is what we need to make easier for our Rudi's. It is also not guaranteed that it breaks other packages, but this is what we test in our Beta distribution internally or in home:rguenther:playground on risky packages.

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We could then generate installation media from that repo - and since many types of problems are already fixed (everything builds, all dependencies are satisfied, there are no file conflicts), we could do so more frequently.

You can do so, just apply the devel projects in addition to that in the product definition/kiwi. However, I can promise you, when apply all, you will never have a working system ;)

I feel like we're talking past each other here :) If openSUSE:Factory is guaranteed to always be building and have working dependencies, and devel projects aren't, I'd draw the packages from openSUSE:Factory, obviously.

By the way, is there a good, up-to-date wiki page on how the ISOs are made, from start to finish?

There is a bit in the wiki, but we work currently on automatization of this and integrating into osc for local builds. So it will become lots easier soon. bye adrian -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) email: adrian@suse.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

KaiRo - Robert Kaiser

18 Sep 18 Sep

16:36

Christoph Thiel wrote:

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Since we are still working on getting an installable build done, we won't be able to release Beta1 today. I'll post an update on our progress later.

Just don't use the kernel that's currently in the kernel HEAD repo as that fails to even enter the booting sequence here... It cost me two hours today, but going back to the kernel-pae package from current factory repo works - only that the kernel-source package doesn't match its version so I can't "recompile" the nVidia driver for it :( Robert Kaiser --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Lars Müller

21 Sep 21 Sep

11:33

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 03:36:48PM +0200, KaiRo - Robert Kaiser wrote:

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Christoph Thiel wrote:

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Since we are still working on getting an installable build done, we won't be able to release Beta1 today. I'll post an update on our progress later.

Just don't use the kernel that's currently in the kernel HEAD repo as that fails to even enter the booting sequence here... It cost me two hours today, but going back to the kernel-pae package from current factory repo works - only that the kernel-source package doesn't match its version so I can't "recompile" the nVidia driver for it :(

I've filed a feature request #305311 to allow multiple kernel installes. The intention is to always keep at least the current working kernel installed. Maybe a sysconfig setting allows to control how many kernels are kept. A setting to 0 would make people happy which are used to deal with the dafault pain since ages. Would such an option have have saved you time? Lars -- Lars Müller [ˈlaː(r)z ˈmʏlɐ] Samba Team SuSE Linux, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany

ne...

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On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 09:33, Lars Müller wrote:

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I've filed a feature request #305311 to allow multiple kernel installes. The intention is to always keep at least the current working kernel installed. Maybe a sysconfig setting allows to control how many kernels are kept. A setting to 0 would make people happy which are used to deal with the dafault pain since ages.

As a relative new comer to openSUSE, this is one of the features of Fedora that I sorely miss. While for the most part I have had good luck with updating kernels, I was bitten the last time I upgraded my kernel. It did take me a while to find the old kernel so I could reinstall. If this is allowed, it would certainly ease the pain for us 'newbies'. ne... -- Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org) Now accepting personal mail for GMail invites. Zsa Zsa Gabor - "He taught me housekeeping; when I divorce I keep the house." --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Rajko M.

20:50

On Sunday 21 September 2008 03:33:43 am Lars Müller wrote:

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On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 03:36:48PM +0200, KaiRo - Robert Kaiser wrote: ... I've filed a feature request #305311 to allow multiple kernel installes. The intention is to always keep at least the current working kernel installed. Maybe a sysconfig setting allows to control how many kernels are kept. A setting to 0 would make people happy which are used to deal with the dafault pain since ages.

Would such an option have have saved you time?

Sure. Fixing bootloader configuration would be another step that will allow to boot that fallback kernel. Boot was dependable as death in many SUSE versions, until someone started to play with it few years ago. Now I check /boot and /boot/grub/menu.lst after every kernel update and before reboot, to make sure that it will boot again, and also to cleanup menu.lst from redundant entries and lengthy names that is not easy to read. -- Regards, Rajko --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

josef reidinger

21:25

Rajko M. napsal(a):

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On Sunday 21 September 2008 03:33:43 am Lars Müller wrote:

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On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 03:36:48PM +0200, KaiRo - Robert Kaiser wrote: ... I've filed a feature request #305311 to allow multiple kernel installes. The intention is to always keep at least the current working kernel installed. Maybe a sysconfig setting allows to control how many kernels are kept. A setting to 0 would make people happy which are used to deal with the dafault pain since ages.

Would such an option have have saved you time?

Sure.

Fixing bootloader configuration would be another step that will allow to boot that fallback kernel.

Boot was dependable as death in many SUSE versions, until someone started to play with it few years ago.

Now I check /boot and /boot/grub/menu.lst after every kernel update and before reboot, to make sure that it will boot again, and also to cleanup menu.lst from redundant entries and lengthy names that is not easy to read.

perl-Bootloader support installation of another kernel (you can easy try it with rpm -i). Code must be changed because everything changing like new hardware, new type of kernel or new features (perl-Bootloader handle kernel change but also backend for yast-bootloader) Checking after every kernel update is smart and if you see any problem please fill bug report (I smash almost all reported bugs, so all problems I know I try fix it). Josef Reidinger perl-Bootloader maintainer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Christoph Thiel

19 Sep 19 Sep

19:07

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 02:36:48PM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote:

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On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 01:26:52PM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote:

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Hi everyone,

we don't have any Beta1 test builds yet, since we had to trigger a complete rebuild very late in the process -- therefore we are still bootstrapping the distribution and expect first test builds sometime tomorrow. I'll keep you posted on the upcoming Beta1 release!

Since we are still working on getting an installable build done, we won't be able to release Beta1 today. I'll post an update on our progress later.

Update: Beta1 is done and being synced out to mirrors right now. Unfortunately we'll have to skip PPC and LiveCDs for this Beta. Looking forward to getting them fixed for Beta2 :) Please also note, we have disabled syncing of http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/ -- this repo is outdated and deprecated now. As we are building openSUSE in the Build Service now, please use http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory/standard/ for the now. Adrian is working on introducing a new structure on download.openSUSE.org for factory etc. The official Beta1 announcement is coming later tonight. Best, Christoph -- Christoph Thiel, Tech. Project Management, Research & Development SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Robert Kaiser

20:18

Christoph Thiel wrote:

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Please also note, we have disabled syncing of http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/ -- this repo is outdated and deprecated now.

As we are building openSUSE in the Build Service now, please use http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory/standard/ for the now. Adrian is working on introducing a new structure on download.openSUSE.org for factory etc.

What about the non-OSS repo? I see the old location in distribution/ is also non-working now, but where's its new place? Robert Kaiser --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Peter Czanik

23:05

Hello, Christoph Thiel írta:

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As we are building openSUSE in the Build Service now, please use http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory/standard/ for the now. Is there any way to sync it by rsync? rsync 'rsync://stage.opensuse.org/buildservice-repos/openSUSE:/' gives: [...] drwxr-xr-x 90 2008/03/13 12:21:34 . drwxr-xr-x 20 2007/10/04 15:30:31 10.3: drwxr-xr-x 4096 2008/06/19 18:55:45 Tools drwxr-xr-x 33 2008/07/25 15:03:15 Tools: drwxr-xr-x 19 2008/01/10 14:05:23 infrastructure drwxr-xr-x 19 2006/12/12 02:55:54 lists

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Christoph Thiel

23 Sep 23 Sep

17:55

Peter, is there a way to sync Factory via rsync? Best, Christoph On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 10:05:40PM +0200, Peter Czanik wrote:

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Hello,

Christoph Thiel írta:

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As we are building openSUSE in the Build Service now, please use http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory/standard/ for the now. Is there any way to sync it by rsync? rsync 'rsync://stage.opensuse.org/buildservice-repos/openSUSE:/' gives: [...] drwxr-xr-x 90 2008/03/13 12:21:34 . drwxr-xr-x 20 2007/10/04 15:30:31 10.3: drwxr-xr-x 4096 2008/06/19 18:55:45 Tools drwxr-xr-x 33 2008/07/25 15:03:15 Tools: drwxr-xr-x 19 2008/01/10 14:05:23 infrastructure drwxr-xr-x 19 2006/12/12 02:55:54 lists

Bye, CzP

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Adrian Schröter

19:01

On Tuesday 23 September 2008 16:55:41 wrote Christoph Thiel:

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Peter, is there a way to sync Factory via rsync?

Just check rsync.opensuse.org, all OBS projects are syncable. bye adrian

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Best, Christoph

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 10:05:40PM +0200, Peter Czanik wrote:

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Hello,

Christoph Thiel írta:

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As we are building openSUSE in the Build Service now, please use http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory/standard/ for the now.

Is there any way to sync it by rsync? rsync 'rsync://stage.opensuse.org/buildservice-repos/openSUSE:/' gives: [...] drwxr-xr-x 90 2008/03/13 12:21:34 . drwxr-xr-x 20 2007/10/04 15:30:31 10.3: drwxr-xr-x 4096 2008/06/19 18:55:45 Tools drwxr-xr-x 33 2008/07/25 15:03:15 Tools: drwxr-xr-x 19 2008/01/10 14:05:23 infrastructure drwxr-xr-x 19 2006/12/12 02:55:54 lists

Bye, CzP

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Magnus Boman

24 Sep 24 Sep

02:53

Adrian, On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 18:01 +0200, Adrian Schröter wrote:

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On Tuesday 23 September 2008 16:55:41 wrote Christoph Thiel:

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Peter, is there a way to sync Factory via rsync?

Just check rsync.opensuse.org, all OBS projects are syncable.

I'm not sure about that... From rsync.opensuse.org, I can't see/mirror the GNOME or KDE Factory repos; mboman@mblxsrv01:~> rsync rsync://rsync.opensuse.org/buildservice-repos/KDE:/KDE4:/ drwxr-xr-x 160 2008/07/23 02:18:44 . drwxr-xr-x 504 2008/07/23 14:42:49 Community drwxr-xr-x 136 2008/07/23 08:18:45 STABLE: drwxr-xr-x 176 2008/07/22 06:38:04 UNSTABLE: mboman@mblxsrv01:~> rsync rsync://rsync.opensuse.org/buildservice-repos/GNOME:/ drwxr-xr-x 320 2008/09/10 01:30:38 . drwxr-xr-x 368 2008/06/20 01:23:04 Community drwxr-xr-x 112 2008/09/11 02:07:59 DICE drwxr-xr-x 80 2008/09/10 01:30:38 Evolution: drwxr-xr-x 144 2008/06/20 01:49:22 GNOME1 drwxr-xr-x 96 2008/07/30 00:18:11 GTK: drwxr-xr-x 144 2008/06/20 00:39:30 STABLE drwxr-xr-x 144 2008/06/18 04:18:07 UNSTABLE drwxr-xr-x 80 2008/06/27 05:01:26 snapshots: drwxr-xr-x 72 2008/01/08 03:43:30 test-updates: But it works from gwdg for example; mboman@mblxsrv01:~> rsync rsync://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/GNOME:/ drwxr-xr-x 153 2008/09/10 01:30:38 . drwxr-xr-x 4096 2008/06/20 01:23:04 Community drwxr-xr-x 49 2008/09/11 02:07:59 DICE drwxr-xr-x 22 2008/09/10 01:30:38 Evolution: drwxr-xr-x 29 2008/07/10 01:51:28 Factory drwxr-xr-x 66 2008/06/20 01:49:22 GNOME1 drwxr-xr-x 33 2008/07/30 00:18:11 GTK: drwxr-xr-x 66 2008/06/20 00:39:30 STABLE drwxr-xr-x 69 2008/06/18 04:18:07 UNSTABLE drwxr-xr-x 22 2008/06/27 05:01:26 snapshots: drwxr-xr-x 17 2008/01/08 03:43:30 test-updates: Thanks, Magnus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

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08:51

Peter, how are the Factory trees inside of build service repos supposed to get synced ? On Wednesday 24 September 2008 01:53:19 wrote Magnus Boman:

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Adrian,

On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 18:01 +0200, Adrian Schröter wrote:

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On Tuesday 23 September 2008 16:55:41 wrote Christoph Thiel:

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Peter, is there a way to sync Factory via rsync?

Just check rsync.opensuse.org, all OBS projects are syncable.

I'm not sure about that... From rsync.opensuse.org, I can't see/mirror the GNOME or KDE Factory repos;

mboman@mblxsrv01:~> rsync rsync://rsync.opensuse.org/buildservice-repos/KDE:/KDE4:/

drwxr-xr-x 160 2008/07/23 02:18:44 . drwxr-xr-x 504 2008/07/23 14:42:49 Community drwxr-xr-x 136 2008/07/23 08:18:45 STABLE: drwxr-xr-x 176 2008/07/22 06:38:04 UNSTABLE:

mboman@mblxsrv01:~> rsync rsync://rsync.opensuse.org/buildservice-repos/GNOME:/

drwxr-xr-x 320 2008/09/10 01:30:38 . drwxr-xr-x 368 2008/06/20 01:23:04 Community drwxr-xr-x 112 2008/09/11 02:07:59 DICE drwxr-xr-x 80 2008/09/10 01:30:38 Evolution: drwxr-xr-x 144 2008/06/20 01:49:22 GNOME1 drwxr-xr-x 96 2008/07/30 00:18:11 GTK: drwxr-xr-x 144 2008/06/20 00:39:30 STABLE drwxr-xr-x 144 2008/06/18 04:18:07 UNSTABLE drwxr-xr-x 80 2008/06/27 05:01:26 snapshots: drwxr-xr-x 72 2008/01/08 03:43:30 test-updates:

But it works from gwdg for example;

mboman@mblxsrv01:~> rsync rsync://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/GNOME:/

drwxr-xr-x 153 2008/09/10 01:30:38 . drwxr-xr-x 4096 2008/06/20 01:23:04 Community drwxr-xr-x 49 2008/09/11 02:07:59 DICE drwxr-xr-x 22 2008/09/10 01:30:38 Evolution: drwxr-xr-x 29 2008/07/10 01:51:28 Factory drwxr-xr-x 66 2008/06/20 01:49:22 GNOME1 drwxr-xr-x 33 2008/07/30 00:18:11 GTK: drwxr-xr-x 66 2008/06/20 00:39:30 STABLE drwxr-xr-x 69 2008/06/18 04:18:07 UNSTABLE drwxr-xr-x 22 2008/06/27 05:01:26 snapshots: drwxr-xr-x 17 2008/01/08 03:43:30 test-updates:

Thanks, Magnus

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14:19

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 07:51:41AM +0200, Adrian Schröter wrote:

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Peter, how are the Factory trees inside of build service repos supposed to get synced ?

You mean buildservice projects that are built for Factory (Factory as build target)? Like http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/UNSTABLE/openSUSE_Factory ? Those are treated similarly as 10.0, 10.1, 10.2, Fedora, Mandriva, SLES_9, CentOS, etc repositories: only mirrored to selected mirrors. Therefore they are not contained in the normal and publicly accessible rsync modules. This is because there are very few downloads for these packages. Mirrors that sync and offer those repositories are: widehat.opensuse.org ftp5.gwdg.de anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk If there is need for more, access is granted on request.

...

On Wednesday 24 September 2008 01:53:19 wrote Magnus Boman:

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Adrian,

On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 18:01 +0200, Adrian Schröter wrote:

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On Tuesday 23 September 2008 16:55:41 wrote Christoph Thiel:

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Peter, is there a way to sync Factory via rsync?

Just check rsync.opensuse.org, all OBS projects are syncable.

I'm not sure about that... From rsync.opensuse.org, I can't see/mirror the GNOME or KDE Factory repos;

mboman@mblxsrv01:~> rsync rsync://rsync.opensuse.org/buildservice-repos/KDE:/KDE4:/

drwxr-xr-x 160 2008/07/23 02:18:44 . drwxr-xr-x 504 2008/07/23 14:42:49 Community drwxr-xr-x 136 2008/07/23 08:18:45 STABLE: drwxr-xr-x 176 2008/07/22 06:38:04 UNSTABLE:

mboman@mblxsrv01:~> rsync rsync://rsync.opensuse.org/buildservice-repos/GNOME:/

drwxr-xr-x 320 2008/09/10 01:30:38 . drwxr-xr-x 368 2008/06/20 01:23:04 Community drwxr-xr-x 112 2008/09/11 02:07:59 DICE drwxr-xr-x 80 2008/09/10 01:30:38 Evolution: drwxr-xr-x 144 2008/06/20 01:49:22 GNOME1 drwxr-xr-x 96 2008/07/30 00:18:11 GTK: drwxr-xr-x 144 2008/06/20 00:39:30 STABLE drwxr-xr-x 144 2008/06/18 04:18:07 UNSTABLE drwxr-xr-x 80 2008/06/27 05:01:26 snapshots: drwxr-xr-x 72 2008/01/08 03:43:30 test-updates:

But it works from gwdg for example;

mboman@mblxsrv01:~> rsync rsync://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/GNOME:/

drwxr-xr-x 153 2008/09/10 01:30:38 . drwxr-xr-x 4096 2008/06/20 01:23:04 Community drwxr-xr-x 49 2008/09/11 02:07:59 DICE drwxr-xr-x 22 2008/09/10 01:30:38 Evolution: drwxr-xr-x 29 2008/07/10 01:51:28 Factory drwxr-xr-x 66 2008/06/20 01:49:22 GNOME1 drwxr-xr-x 33 2008/07/30 00:18:11 GTK: drwxr-xr-x 66 2008/06/20 00:39:30 STABLE drwxr-xr-x 69 2008/06/18 04:18:07 UNSTABLE drwxr-xr-x 22 2008/06/27 05:01:26 snapshots: drwxr-xr-x 17 2008/01/08 03:43:30 test-updates:

Thanks, Magnus

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Peter Poeml

14:06

Hi, On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 04:55:41PM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote:

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Peter, is there a way to sync Factory via rsync?

There is a way to access it, rsync://rsync.opensuse.org/opensuse-full-with-factory/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory rsync://rsync.opensuse.org/opensuse-full-with-factory/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory-debug (as well as stage.opensuse.org for registered mirrors) but a better way to track Factory seems to be drpmsync, see references on http://en.opensuse.org/Mirror_Infrastructure. Anyhow, we are currently restructuring the download tree and factory will not be available under the above URLs for long, it'll move to a different place and there will be new rsync modules.

...

Best, Christoph

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 10:05:40PM +0200, Peter Czanik wrote:

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Hello,

Christoph Thiel írta:

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As we are building openSUSE in the Build Service now, please use http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory/standard/ for

Note, repositories/openSUSE:/Factory (and repositories/openSUSE:/11.0, etc) are not really directories existing anywhere. It's just a kludge to make the trees appear to be there, because they are sort of a "special" project in the build service. The build service _does_ contain the packages but doesn't offer them publicly. Thus, the download server needs to redirect to the distribution tree, so in the case of the above URL there is a redirect to /distribution/SL-OSS-Factory etc. Therefore, rsync won't see anything there. Maybe this goes away once the build service actually builds (and hosts) the released products.

...

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the now. Is there any way to sync it by rsync? rsync 'rsync://stage.opensuse.org/buildservice-repos/openSUSE:/' gives: [...] drwxr-xr-x 90 2008/03/13 12:21:34 . drwxr-xr-x 20 2007/10/04 15:30:31 10.3: drwxr-xr-x 4096 2008/06/19 18:55:45 Tools drwxr-xr-x 33 2008/07/25 15:03:15 Tools: drwxr-xr-x 19 2008/01/10 14:05:23 infrastructure drwxr-xr-x 19 2006/12/12 02:55:54 lists

Bye, CzP

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Warren Stockton

20 Sep 20 Sep

00:24

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: Status openSUSE distribution

On Friday 19 September 2008 10:07:06 Christoph Thiel wrote:

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please use http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory/standard/ for the now. There is something wrong with the grub-0.97-150.1.i586.rpm in this repository... # ls -l /usr/lib/grub/ total 2761112 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-09-19 13:46 ./ drwxr-xr-x 127 root root 77824 2008-09-19 14:33 ../ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 134504664 2008-09-16 00:23 e2fs_stage1_5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 134504664 2008-09-16 00:23 fat_stage1_5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 134504664 2008-09-16 00:23 ffs_stage1_5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 134504664 2008-09-16 00:23 iso9660_stage1_5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 134504664 2008-09-16 00:23 jfs_stage1_5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 134504664 2008-09-16 00:23 minix_stage1_5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 268992400 2008-09-16 00:22 nbgrub -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 268960656 2008-09-16 00:22 pxegrub -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 134504664 2008-09-16 00:23 reiserfs_stage1_5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 134481080 2008-09-16 00:23 stage1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 268959632 2008-09-16 00:22 stage2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 268960656 2008-09-16 00:23 stage2_eltorito -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 268959632 2008-09-16 00:22 stage2.netboot -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 134504664 2008-09-16 00:23 ufs2_stage1_5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 134504664 2008-09-16 00:23 vstafs_stage1_5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 134504664 2008-09-16 00:23 xfs_stage1_5

After re-installing grub-0.97-148.i586.rpm from the old SL-OSS-factory, the file sizes are more respectable: # ls -l /usr/lib/grub/ total 944 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-09-19 15:03 ./ drwxr-xr-x 128 root root 77824 2008-09-19 15:03 ../ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7596 2008-09-08 05:35 e2fs_stage1_5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7328 2008-09-08 05:35 fat_stage1_5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6604 2008-09-08 05:35 ffs_stage1_5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6600 2008-09-08 05:35 iso9660_stage1_5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8184 2008-09-08 05:35 jfs_stage1_5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6832 2008-09-08 05:35 minix_stage1_5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 182356 2008-09-08 05:35 nbgrub -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 183380 2008-09-08 05:35 pxegrub -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9228 2008-09-08 05:35 reiserfs_stage1_5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 512 2008-09-08 05:35 stage1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 105690 2008-09-08 05:35 stage2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 105690 2008-09-08 05:35 stage2_eltorito -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 183032 2008-09-08 05:35 stage2.netboot -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6864 2008-09-08 05:35 ufs2_stage1_5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6204 2008-09-08 05:35 vstafs_stage1_5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9028 2008-09-08 05:35 xfs_stage1_5 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Rajko M.

01:17

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: Status openSUSE distribution

On Friday 19 September 2008 04:24:42 pm Warren Stockton wrote:

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On Friday 19 September 2008 10:07:06 Christoph Thiel wrote:

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please use http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory/standard/ for the now.

There is something wrong with the grub-0.97-150.1.i586.rpm in this repository... # ls -l /usr/lib/grub/ total 2761112 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-09-19 13:46 ./ drwxr-xr-x 127 root root 77824 2008-09-19 14:33 ../ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 134504664 2008-09-16 00:23 e2fs_stage1_5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 134504664 2008-09-16 00:23 fat_stage1_5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 134504664 2008-09-16 00:23 ffs_stage1_5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 134504664 2008-09-16 00:23 iso9660_stage1_5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 134504664 2008-09-16 00:23 jfs_stage1_5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 134504664 2008-09-16 00:23 minix_stage1_5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 268992400 2008-09-16 00:22 nbgrub -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 268960656 2008-09-16 00:22 pxegrub -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 134504664 2008-09-16 00:23 reiserfs_stage1_5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 134481080 2008-09-16 00:23 stage1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 268959632 2008-09-16 00:22 stage2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 268960656 2008-09-16 00:23 stage2_eltorito -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 268959632 2008-09-16 00:22 stage2.netboot -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 134504664 2008-09-16 00:23 ufs2_stage1_5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 134504664 2008-09-16 00:23 vstafs_stage1_5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 134504664 2008-09-16 00:23 xfs_stage1_5

grub-0.97-150.1.x86_64.rpm 16-Sep-2008 15:29 1.0M It seems like very improved compression utility ;-) -- Regards, Rajko --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

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01:42

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: Status openSUSE distribution

Rajko M. wrote:

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grub-0.97-150.1.x86_64.rpm 16-Sep-2008 15:29 1.0M

It seems like very improved compression utility ;-)

True, when installing it told me Download: 1.0 MB, installed 2.63 GB! Unfortunately this new wonder it tried to install didn't boot, grub constantly went into rebooting when it should load this interesting new stage2 it had installed... Robert Kaiser --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Larry Stotler

22 Sep 22 Sep

01:58

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: Status openSUSE distribution

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote:

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Unfortunately this new wonder it tried to install didn't boot, grub constantly went into rebooting when it should load this interesting new stage2 it had installed...

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Daniel Fuhrmann

20 Sep 20 Sep

01:47

Am Freitag, 19. September 2008 18:07:06 schrieb Christoph Thiel:

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On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 02:36:48PM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote:

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On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 01:26:52PM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote:

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Hi everyone,

we don't have any Beta1 test builds yet, since we had to trigger a complete rebuild very late in the process -- therefore we are still bootstrapping the distribution and expect first test builds sometime tomorrow. I'll keep you posted on the upcoming Beta1 release!

Since we are still working on getting an installable build done, we won't be able to release Beta1 today. I'll post an update on our progress later.

Update: Beta1 is done and being synced out to mirrors right now. Unfortunately we'll have to skip PPC and LiveCDs for this Beta. Looking forward to getting them fixed for Beta2 :)

Please also note, we have disabled syncing of http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/ -- this repo is outdated and deprecated now.

As we are building openSUSE in the Build Service now, please use http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory/standard/ for the now. Adrian is working on introducing a new structure on download.openSUSE.org for factory etc.

The official Beta1 announcement is coming later tonight.

Best, Christoph

whats wrong with kernel ath5k? I was very happy that my Wlan worked out of box in 11.1. Now i find the madwifi-kmp-x.rpm in repo, and kernel implemented ath5k doesn't work for me! -- Neues Auto? http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=71780305 http://www.autoscout24.de/Details.aspx?ts=290937.5&id=beuidujcy3yo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

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02:35

Am Samstag, 20. September 2008 00:47:27 schrieb Daniel Fuhrmann:

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Am Freitag, 19. September 2008 18:07:06 schrieb Christoph Thiel:

...
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 02:36:48PM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote:

...
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 01:26:52PM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote:

...
Hi everyone,

we don't have any Beta1 test builds yet, since we had to trigger a complete rebuild very late in the process -- therefore we are still bootstrapping the distribution and expect first test builds sometime tomorrow. I'll keep you posted on the upcoming Beta1 release!

Since we are still working on getting an installable build done, we won't be able to release Beta1 today. I'll post an update on our progress later.

Update: Beta1 is done and being synced out to mirrors right now. Unfortunately we'll have to skip PPC and LiveCDs for this Beta. Looking forward to getting them fixed for Beta2 :)

Please also note, we have disabled syncing of http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/ -- this repo is outdated and deprecated now.

As we are building openSUSE in the Build Service now, please use http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory/standard/ for the now. Adrian is working on introducing a new structure on download.openSUSE.org for factory etc.

The official Beta1 announcement is coming later tonight.

Best, Christoph

whats wrong with kernel ath5k? I was very happy that my Wlan worked out of box in 11.1. Now i find the madwifi-kmp-x.rpm in repo, and kernel implemented ath5k doesn't work for me! update: I did Zypper dup with only the new repo. Everywhere in the system it shows me 2.6.27.rc6-7 kernel but installed is 2.6.27.7. So I cant compile madwifisource and the madwifi.kmp also doesn`t fit the kernel!

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02:43

Why is the 11.0 kernel in ftp5.gwdg/pub/opensuse/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory/standard/i586/ Am Samstag, 20. September 2008 01:35:43 schrieb Daniel Fuhrmann:

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Am Samstag, 20. September 2008 00:47:27 schrieb Daniel Fuhrmann:

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Am Freitag, 19. September 2008 18:07:06 schrieb Christoph Thiel:

...
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 02:36:48PM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote:

...
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 01:26:52PM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote:

...
Hi everyone,

we don't have any Beta1 test builds yet, since we had to trigger a complete rebuild very late in the process -- therefore we are still bootstrapping the distribution and expect first test builds sometime tomorrow. I'll keep you posted on the upcoming Beta1 release!

Since we are still working on getting an installable build done, we won't be able to release Beta1 today. I'll post an update on our progress later.

Update: Beta1 is done and being synced out to mirrors right now. Unfortunately we'll have to skip PPC and LiveCDs for this Beta. Looking forward to getting them fixed for Beta2 :)

Please also note, we have disabled syncing of http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/ -- this repo is outdated and deprecated now.

As we are building openSUSE in the Build Service now, please use http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory/standard/ for the now. Adrian is working on introducing a new structure on download.openSUSE.org for factory etc.

The official Beta1 announcement is coming later tonight.

Best, Christoph

whats wrong with kernel ath5k? I was very happy that my Wlan worked out of box in 11.1. Now i find the madwifi-kmp-x.rpm in repo, and kernel implemented ath5k doesn't work for me!

update: I did Zypper dup with only the new repo. Everywhere in the system it shows me 2.6.27.rc6-7 kernel but installed is 2.6.27.7. So I cant compile madwifisource and the madwifi.kmp also doesn`t fit the kernel!

Eberhard Moenkeberg

03:04

Hi, On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Daniel Fuhrmann wrote:

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Why is the 11.0 kernel in ftp5.gwdg/pub/opensuse/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory/standard/i586/

At the moment, .../i586/ has no kernel-* RPM. Just wait a while - update in progress. Viele Grüße Eberhard Mönkeberg (emoenke@gwdg.de, em@kki.org) -- Eberhard Mönkeberg Arbeitsgruppe IT-Infrastruktur E-Mail: emoenke@gwdg.de Tel.: +49 (0)551 201-1551 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gesellschaft für wissenschaftliche Datenverarbeitung mbH Göttingen (GWDG) Am Fassberg 11, 37077 Göttingen URL: http://www.gwdg.de E-Mail: gwdg@gwdg.de Tel.: +49 (0)551 201-1510 Fax: +49 (0)551 201-2150 Geschäftsführer: Prof. Dr. Bernhard Neumair Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Prof. Dr. Christian Griesinger Sitz der Gesellschaft: Göttingen Registergericht: Göttingen Handelsregister-Nr. B 598 -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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22 Sep 22 Sep

02:00

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whats wrong with kernel ath5k? I was very happy that my Wlan worked out of box in 11.1. Now i find the madwifi-kmp-x.rpm in repo, and kernel implemented ath5k doesn't work for me!

I have found the ath5k driver unreliable on my Netgear 5xxx based card. It doesn't work at all on my DLink 24xx based card. I go in and just delete the ath5k module from the modules directory. Then I compile madwifi. Only issue is that when I update the kernel, the Netgear card still works. I just eventually have problems or I notice that the lights aren't working right, and then I do it again....... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

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09:29

New subject: [opensuse-factory] ath5k: update [was: Status openSUSE distribution)

First I tell the background: I tried to update my factory system to beta1. There went somthing wrong with the update. The repo changed and then the Kernel changed also. At least i downgraded complete to 11.0 And dir an upgrade to beta1. but not complete, only update. there I recognized that some packages are older than in 11.0 and the problem with wlan was networkmanager. with ifup the ath5k worked, even with wpa. Then I forced an installation from the new Repo, and my system doesn't boot anymore. Next step I will install from beta1 DVD and look what then happens. In the Repo theres something strange with kernel, because grub and sysinfo says 2.6.27-rc6-7 and zypper says 2.6.27.7 on a 32bit system Daniel Am Montag, 22. September 2008 01:00:35 schrieb Larry Stotler:

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On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 6:47 PM, Daniel Fuhrmann

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whats wrong with kernel ath5k? I was very happy that my Wlan worked out of box in 11.1. Now i find the madwifi-kmp-x.rpm in repo, and kernel implemented ath5k doesn't work for me!

I have found the ath5k driver unreliable on my Netgear 5xxx based card. It doesn't work at all on my DLink 24xx based card. I go in and just delete the ath5k module from the modules directory. Then I compile madwifi. Only issue is that when I update the kernel, the Netgear card still works. I just eventually have problems or I notice that the lights aren't working right, and then I do it again....... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Markus Koßmann

20 Sep 20 Sep

15:29

Am Freitag, 19. September 2008 schrieb Christoph Thiel:

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As we are building openSUSE in the Build Service now, please use http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory/standard/ for the now. Adrian is working on introducing a new structure on download.openSUSE.org for factory etc.

If you only update the baseurl entry in your existing zypp configration file to the new location you will end with a nasty error message about missing a contents file. You have to change the type entry from "yast2" to "rpm-md",too. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Toni Harbaugh-Blackford

22 Sep 22 Sep

14:03

Folks- It is not clear to me how to do a network install from the new location, since it only contains what used to be the 'inst-source/suse' directory, with none of the outer control files. So how do you do a network install from the new location? Thanks, Toni -----Original Message----- From: Christoph Thiel To: opensuse-factory@opensuse.org Sent: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:07 pm Subject: Re: [opensuse-factory] Status openSUSE distribution On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 02:36:48PM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote:

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On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 01:26:52PM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote:

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Hi everyone,

we don't have any Beta1 test builds yet, since we had to trigger a complete rebuild very late in the process -- therefore we are still bootstrapping the distribution and expect first test builds sometime tomorrow. I'll keep you posted on the upcoming Beta1 release!

Since we are still working on getting an installable build done, we won't be able to release Beta1 today. I'll post an update on our progress later.

Update: Beta1 is done and being synced out to mirrors right now. Unfortunately we'll have to skip PPC and LiveCDs for this Beta. Looking forward to getting them fixed for Beta2 :) Please also note, we have disabled syncing of http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/ -- this repo is outdated and deprecated now. As we are building o penSUSE in the Build Service now, please use http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory/standard/ for the now. Adrian is working on introducing a new structure on download.openSUSE.org for factory etc. The official Beta1 announcement is coming later tonight. Best, Christoph -- Christoph Thiel, Tech. Project Management, Research & Development SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Peter Czanik

15:26

Hello, Christoph Thiel írta:

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As we are building openSUSE in the Build Service now, please use http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory/standard/ for the now. Adrian is working on introducing a new structure on download.openSUSE.org for factory etc.

Is there an ETA for this? I prefer to install from the full distro instead of the DVD... Bye, CzP --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

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