On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 10:25 PM, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:

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The update itself is easy. but I can't promise that next time when we pick Leap packages. the mainline version in TW contains no incomplete features (at least that's what upstream did for 1.6 and 1.7). anyway in my view, odd number always means experimental. And I don't want users to explicitly install "nginx-mainline", "nginx-stable", "nginx-1.8", "nginx-1.9"...that's not friendly.

A dummy Provides might help. but I have to apply maintainership in server:http to rename packages.

I just did the change.. request id 356966. let's provide just *one* nginx based on upstream recommendations.

That's hardly called "discussion". And my concern wasn't answered at all. There must be a reason upstream provides two branches. If they're so confident then stable didn't exist at all. If I am the upstream, I'll encourage users to stick to the latest version too. At least I don't want my own forum server open to flaws caused by incomplete/experimental features. Marguerite -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 1:04 AM, Jan Engelhardt wrote:

Well if you like, call stable "backports", and mainline "stable" instead.

If so, 'backports' is a must. 1. see this: https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/openSUSE:Backports:SLE-12 packages lay there need to be in factory first. 2. think about maintenance for released products. http://nginx.org/en/CHANGES changelog for 1.9.8: * Bugfix: a segmentation fault might occur in a worker process when using LibreSSL; the bug had appeared in 1.9.6. what if the nginx in Leap is exactly 1.9.6? we create an updatestack to update it to 1.9.8? then 1.9.10 to fix 3 more security bugs? the path is not smooth. I am not against the inclusion of mainline version. I just think we don't need to take the cost of dropping stable version. Marguerite -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Marguerite Su wrote:

On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Ibrahim M. Ghazal wrote:

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I'm curious, why does Tumbleweed have Nginx "stable" (1.8.x) and not "mainline" (1.9.x)?

I maintained nginx for a while. I just followed the choice of the previous maintainers. so let's not discuss the 'why', just take it as 'facts'.

Let's talk about 'how'.

How to update TW's nginx while keep Leap's at stable?

The update itself is easy. but I can't promise that next time when we pick Leap packages. the mainline version in TW contains no incomplete

There are still a few months left until we have to branch for the next Leap :-) While the default modus operandi is to pick packages from Factory there is still also the option to go for a different branch if needed. IOW as package maintainer you should feel free to put whatever version in TW that you think fits best for the target audience there. When thinking about Leap the different target audience might justify a different version of course. If in case of nginx having packages for two branches in Factory makes sense then that's fine too IMO as long as there's at least one package actually called 'nginx'. cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ V_/_ http://www.suse.com/ SUSE Linux GmbH, GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org