"Alexey Eremenko" writes:

On 9/22/06, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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Here's a pattern for "Tools and libraries for web application development". Please comment and help to improve,

What about adding some tools for that ?

No problem for me - let's hear what others think...

Suggestions: 1) Quanta+ (part of kdewebdev3 package) 2) Nvu (Not sure if it's part of SUSE, but based on Mozilla source code)

nvu is part of our ftp tree, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

Andras Mantia wrote:

On Friday 22 September 2006 16:12, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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What about adding some tools for that ? No problem for me - let's hear what others think...

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Suggestions: 1) Quanta+ (part of kdewebdev3 package)

Of course I suggest adding it. ;-) But remember, that Quanta+ needs other software to work completely and correctly, mainly the rest of kdewebdev and for some features cervisia from kdesdk. These are not hard, but soft requirements. This is described in the PACKAGING file in the kdewebdev source.

I know Gnome has its own web development tool (Bluefish), and there is NVU as well, so it might make sense to have kdewebdev installed only if KDE is selected and Bluefish only if Gnome is selected. I didn't follow the pattern discussion closely, so I don't know if this is possible or not. If not, I don't mind if Quanta is always installed. ;-) But it needs kdelibs as well in that case. I'm not sure where NVU would fit as well...

Andras

Nvu is based on the Mozilla Composer and has it's own libraries and plugins. I just have a symlink in /usr/local/bin and it finds everything it needs in /opt/nvu-1.0 where I've installed it. /usr/local/bin/nvu -> /opt/nvu-1.0/nvu Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Retired IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Andras Mantia writes:

On Friday 22 September 2006 16:12, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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What about adding some tools for that ?

No problem for me - let's hear what others think...

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Suggestions: 1) Quanta+ (part of kdewebdev3 package)

Of course I suggest adding it. ;-) But remember, that Quanta+ needs other software to work completely and correctly, mainly the rest of kdewebdev and for some features cervisia from kdesdk. These are not hard, but soft requirements. This is described in the PACKAGING file in the kdewebdev source.

I know Gnome has its own web development tool (Bluefish), and there is NVU as well, so it might make sense to have kdewebdev installed only if KDE is selected and Bluefish only if Gnome is selected. I didn't follow the pattern discussion closely, so I don't know if this is possible or not. If not, I don't mind if Quanta is always installed. ;-) But it needs kdelibs as well in that case. I'm not sure where NVU would fit as well...

I've added now bluefish, kdewebdev and nvu as optional (not enabled by default) packages, so the users sees them and can easily select them... The GNOME/KDE logic is possible as well - another time, this is more complex, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

Andras Mantia writes:

On Monday 25 September 2006 19:48, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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I've added now bluefish, kdewebdev and nvu as optional (not enabled by default) packages, so the users sees them and can easily select them...

The GNOME/KDE logic is possible as well - another time, this is more complex,

Ok. As I'm not at home, I cannot check, but is there already a package for Gubed (gubed.sf.net)? It's one of the recommended packages for Quanta, and altough it's not required, it adds big value to it, namely php debugging, so would be nice to have this one included as well.

I haven't found Gubed directly in our tree, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

"Cristian Rodriguez R." writes:

Andreas Jaeger escribió:

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Here's a pattern for "Tools and libraries for web application development". Please comment and help to improve,

Cheers, Andreas

Must have (if pattern is selected this is mandatory): LAMP-Pattern

the LAMP pattern, for the "P" and the "M" to be useful must contain the following packages,

php5-ctype php5-dom php5-mysql[i] php5-pdo_mysql php5-iconv

and probably as an alternative : php5-zlib php5-mbstring php5-gd

this is because without the first metioned list of modules, it is not useful at all, without mysql support it would be "LAP" :) and the other modules (espcially dom, ctype and iconv) are **basic needs** and **shouldn't** be excluded

The LAMP pattern itself would then be: mandatory apache2 yast2-http-server optional, enabled by default apache2-doc apache2-example-pages apache2-mod_php5 apache2-mod_python apache2-prefork apache2_mod_perl libapr-util1 libapr1 mysql php5-ctype php5-dom php5-iconv php5-mysql php5-mysqli php5-pdo_mysql optional, disabled by default php5-gd php5-mbstring php5-zlib Does everybody agree?

the package subdivison is really annoying.. but that is another story.. ;)

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Alexey Eremenko escribió:

I am not sure, but I think "apache2-prefork" is mandatory, because Apache2 won't start without it.

exactly, it is :) additionally mod_php is compiled in non-zts mode, so, it will only run with apache prefork ;)