[opensuse-factory] RC2 very slow to boot after upgrade from RC1
Hi I did an upgrade from RC1 which was on vbox, to RC2. The upgrade went OK but the system now takes 4 minutes to boot: I see the Welcome to GRUB message and then a fleeting glimpse of an error message. Then a black screen for a long time before the splash appears, then everything is back to normal Any ideas for 1. Where I could get to see the error message (in a log somewhere? I can't find anything like it under /var/log) 2. How to get the boot time down. Thanks L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-08-07 18:29, lynn wrote:
1. Where I could get to see the error message (in a log somewhere? I can't find anything like it under /var/log)
The boot log is integrated in /var/log/messages. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.1 "Asparagus" GM (bombadillo)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlAhSxMACgkQU92UU+smfQWw9wCgj8ZpK92Cl7srYBJSlUvnXmiu vEsAnjCx4rUYA3tufE0q67zxId0QfiVa =cBP7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/08/12 19:06, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2012-08-07 18:29, lynn wrote:
1. Where I could get to see the error message (in a log somewhere? I can't find anything like it under /var/log)
The boot log is integrated in /var/log/messages.
Ah, I see. OK. the only grep with error or Error coinciding with boot time is this: Aug 7 19:28:08 hh6 udisksd[1424]: Error opening /etc/crypttab file: Failed to open file '/etc/crypttab': No such file or directory (g-file-error-quark, 4) It appears twice but with only a 10 second interval. I don't have an encrypted disk. Any ideas? L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-08-07 19:40, lynn wrote:
On 07/08/12 19:06, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Ah, I see. OK. the only grep with error or Error coinciding with boot time is this:
Aug 7 19:28:08 hh6 udisksd[1424]: Error opening /etc/crypttab file: Failed to open file '/etc/crypttab': No such file or directory (g-file-error-quark, 4)
It appears twice but with only a 10 second interval. I don't have an encrypted disk.
Then it is probably not related. There is a tool with systemd to "analyze blame", see what service delays boot. There is a table mode and a graph mode. The package is not installed by default in 12.2, I don't remember the name and can't check it now. bombadillo:~ # systemd-analyze --help systemd-analyze time systemd-analyze blame systemd-analyze plot Process systemd profiling information -h --help Show this help - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.1 "Asparagus" GM (bombadillo)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlAhiXMACgkQU92UU+smfQXGXgCfaeQciUgG6uwKdPpIXof/jdn5 FtEAn1nXe4Xw6ooFkpGlyN9XEI3zxtZR =Pmin -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/08/12 23:32, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 2012-08-07 19:40, lynn wrote:
On 07/08/12 19:06, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Ah, I see. OK. the only grep with error or Error coinciding with boot time is this:
Aug 7 19:28:08 hh6 udisksd[1424]: Error opening /etc/crypttab file: Failed to open file '/etc/crypttab': No such file or directory (g-file-error-quark, 4)
It appears twice but with only a 10 second interval. I don't have an encrypted disk.
Then it is probably not related.
There is a tool with systemd to "analyze blame", see what service delays boot. There is a table mode and a graph mode. The package is not installed by default in 12.2, I don't remember the name and can't check it now.
bombadillo:~ # systemd-analyze --help systemd-analyze time systemd-analyze blame systemd-analyze plot
Process systemd profiling information
-h --help Show this help
Thanks for the tip. Any of these? Doesn't look like 4 minutes. . . L x systemd-analyze blame 39376ms network.service 29464ms named.service 22303ms network-remotefs.service 20058ms postfix.service 15900ms xdm.service 14860ms vboxadd.service 10014ms vboxadd-x11.service 9399ms cpufreq.service 7372ms systemd-vconsole-setup.service 7059ms avahi-daemon.service 7028ms systemd-logind.service 3875ms syslog.service 3822ms localnet.service 3600ms cycle.service 3509ms vboxadd-service.service 2723ms systemd-remount-api-vfs.service 2154ms console-kit-daemon.service 2086ms fbset.service 1841ms udev.service 1785ms purge-kernels.service 1784ms systemd-modules-load.service 1740ms dev-hugepages.mount 1712ms dev-mqueue.mount 1569ms console-kit-log-system-start.service 1527ms remount-rootfs.service 1507ms var-run.mount 1240ms media.mount 1234ms udisks2.service 1222ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service 1179ms var-lock.mount 1161ms sys-kernel-debug.mount 1161ms sys-kernel-security.mount 939ms systemd-sysctl.service 812ms upower.service 785ms acpid.service 762ms systemd-user-sessions.service 700ms udev-trigger.service 623ms systemd-readahead-collect.service 318ms rc-local.service -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-08-09 11:06, lynn wrote:
On 07/08/12 23:32, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Thanks for the tip. Any of these? Doesn't look like 4 minutes. . .
It is easier to see with "plot". You redirect it to a file, which is an SVG, and you can view it with "display". - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.1 "Asparagus" GM (bombadillo)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlAjjLYACgkQU92UU+smfQWI2wCfTj5RIrLcPj8dglz2mzHfNK3F qQsAmwf2RDu/Qu7Mt8dOBF2fy582a+0d =xNp+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/08/12 12:11, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 2012-08-09 11:06, lynn wrote:
On 07/08/12 23:32, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Thanks for the tip. Any of these? Doesn't look like 4 minutes. . .
It is easier to see with "plot". You redirect it to a file, which is an SVG, and you can view it with "display".
OK: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/45150875/plotrc2.svg looks as though it takes 82 seconds. But this represents the time _after_ it has got to the splash I think. The long delay is _before_ we get to the splash. 82 seconds is fine. 5 minutes 22 not so good. . . L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-08-09 17:44, lynn wrote:
OK: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/45150875/plotrc2.svg
looks as though it takes 82 seconds. But this represents the time _after_ it has got to the splash I think. The long delay is _before_ we get to the splash. 82 seconds is fine. 5 minutes 22 not so good. . .
There does not appear to be too long delays. First is the kernel (15"), lots of things, then the delays start with xdm (9"), sound (12"), remote filesystems (7"), and some other things mixed around. Not a single culprit. This test system I'm playing at (12.1) starts in 50". I can not access my virtual 12.2 now to check. But my kernel in 12.1 starts in 8", sound in 3". Longest in console-kit-daemon.service (>10") - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.1 "Asparagus" GM (bombadillo)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlAj8kgACgkQU92UU+smfQU0SACeN9A+EP9+Of5p/lYtEVqnTFD1 VJIAnA5gnx/cFMcjSjux9i2HtG4jti1K =CMZf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/08/12 19:24, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 2012-08-09 17:44, lynn wrote:
There does not appear to be too long delays. First is the kernel (15"), lots of things, then the delays start with xdm (9"), sound (12"), remote filesystems (7"), and some other things mixed around. Not a single culprit.
This test system I'm playing at (12.1) starts in 50". I can not access my virtual 12.2 now to check. But my kernel in 12.1 starts in 8", sound in 3". Longest in console-kit-daemon.service (>10")
Hi Yeah, that seems reasonable to me too. As I say, it's not the boot process itself which I'm concerned about. It's the blank screen just after the welcome to grub 2 message which takes up 4 minutes before systemd get's anywhere near it. This maybe something to do with grub2 on Vbox. L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-08-09 20:33, lynn wrote:
On 09/08/12 19:24, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hi Yeah, that seems reasonable to me too. As I say, it's not the boot process itself which I'm concerned about. It's the blank screen just after the welcome to grub 2 message which takes up 4 minutes before systemd get's anywhere near it. This maybe something to do with grub2 on Vbox.
4 minutes? Wow. I'm not familiar with grub2, I don't need it (yet). - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.1 "Asparagus" GM (bombadillo)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlAkCZ0ACgkQU92UU+smfQVCPwCfR3QOggBxLURXCbFp1xmBXa9P +OcAni5MjnT3y/rUQ6WiDchhXj6u4gkX =zHR/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/08/12 21:03, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 2012-08-09 20:33, lynn wrote:
On 09/08/12 19:24, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hi Yeah, that seems reasonable to me too. As I say, it's not the boot process itself which I'm concerned about. It's the blank screen just after the welcome to grub 2 message which takes up 4 minutes before systemd get's anywhere near it. This maybe something to do with grub2 on Vbox.
4 minutes? Wow. I'm not familiar with grub2, I don't need it (yet).
What is happening in between: Welcome to Grub and Doing fast boot? Whatever it is, it takes 4 minutes. There is no disk activity until we reach the first green screen where you can choose 12.2 or Advanced options. L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-08-10 07:32, lynn wrote:
On 09/08/12 21:03, Carlos E. R. wrote:
What is happening in between: Welcome to Grub and Doing fast boot? Whatever it is, it takes 4 minutes. There is no disk activity until we reach the first green screen where you can choose 12.2 or Advanced options.
I can not imagine. Can you switch to grub legacy? It looks buggy to me. Looking for something and timing out, probably... - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.1 "Asparagus" GM (bombadillo)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlAlEysACgkQU92UU+smfQW21gCfWtANLcyIBxUk2RWh+E4feL8N gnsAnRhC042GmyMNvVcwjYTz7qdlBgQ6 =E9+9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Friday 2012-08-10 15:56, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 2012-08-10 07:32, lynn wrote:
On 09/08/12 21:03, Carlos E. R. wrote:
What is happening in between: Welcome to Grub and Doing fast boot? Whatever it is, it takes 4 minutes. There is no disk activity until we reach the first green screen where you can choose 12.2 or Advanced options.
I can not imagine. Can you switch to grub legacy? It looks buggy to me. Looking for something and timing out, probably...
Could be systemd. Had a case where a filesystem in fstab was not mountable (e.g. because the fstype does not match, or a broken superblock) - and systemd waited out its usual timeout of 60(?) sec before telling me it could not get it mounted.. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/09/2012 11:10 PM, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Friday 2012-08-10 15:56, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 2012-08-10 07:32, lynn wrote:
On 09/08/12 21:03, Carlos E. R. wrote:
What is happening in between: Welcome to Grub and Doing fast boot? Whatever it is, it takes 4 minutes. There is no disk activity until we reach the first green screen where you can choose 12.2 or Advanced options. I can not imagine. Can you switch to grub legacy? It looks buggy to me. Looking for something and timing out, probably... Could be systemd.
Had a case where a filesystem in fstab was not mountable (e.g. because the fstype does not match, or a broken superblock) - and systemd waited out its usual timeout of 60(?) sec before telling me it could not get it mounted.. Switching to grub (not grub 2) boots instantly. The new version also works fine but only on new installs. Upgrades from 12.1 give you the old grub. You also get an ugly boot screen if you use yast in the hope of getting a new shiny grub 2. A bit of a mess. L x
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On 08/10/2012 12:32 AM, lynn wrote:
What is happening in between: Welcome to Grub and Doing fast boot? Whatever it is, it takes 4 minutes. There is no disk activity until we reach the first green screen where you can choose 12.2 or Advanced options.
Lynn, I do not know what is happening on your system, but it appears to be something "special" with your computer. Being a troglodyte, plus I generate lots of kernels, I am still using grub legacy, but I converted two real systems to GRUB2 to test. On both, the time between selecting a kernel to boot, and the first output from systemd is 2 to 3 seconds! Next I created a new VBox VM from the KDE Live CD v86_64 12.2 RC2 (Build 91) with grub2 as the bootloader, and did a "zypper up" after the installation. From the VBox BIOS splash screen to the GRUB2 selection screen is also 2-3 seconds. Why your system is hanging for 4 minutes is still a mystery. What version of VBox are you using? Mine is 4.1.18 r78361 that I downloaded from the Oracle web site. Larry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/08/12 19:11, Larry Finger wrote:
On 08/10/2012 12:32 AM, lynn wrote:
What version of VBox are you using? Mine is 4.1.18 r78361 that I downloaded from the Oracle web site.
Hi Larry, hi everyone. Exactly the same vBox, also from Oracle. I have the guest additions installed too. There is an error which pops up immediately after Welcome to GRUB2 just before the 4 minute delay. If I could get that mesage, I'd be on my way to solving it but i don't think that at that stage any logs are written. Anyway, I'll have a go at the old grub and see if that slves it. L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 07.08.2012 18:29, schrieb lynn:
Hi
I did an upgrade from RC1 which was on vbox, to RC2. The upgrade went OK but the system now takes 4 minutes to boot: I see the Welcome to GRUB message and then a fleeting glimpse of an error message. Then a black screen for a long time before the splash appears, then everything is back to normal
Any ideas for 1. Where I could get to see the error message (in a log somewhere? I can't find anything like it under /var/log) 2. How to get the boot time down.
Thanks L x maybe it's https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=697878 ? i had this a few times randomly on serveral different computers... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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