[opensuse-factory] NetworkManager in LXQt AWOL in 15.1
I just installed NET on a 12 year old Vaio laptop. Extra details are in an unrelated bug report I filed: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1135723 This was a NET installation started from Grub template that I forgot to delete fixed IP configuration on before beginning, of LXQt pattern. Now I need to switch to DHCP, but there's no NM in YaST or anywhere I can find in menus, or in system tray, and YaST is blocked from changes by NM. These are all the kmanag searched packages installed shown by YaST: NetworkManager-1.10.6-lp151.8.1.x86_64 NetworkManager-branding-openSUSE-42.1-lp151.3.2.noarch NetworkManager-lang-1.10.6-lp151.8.1.noarch libKF5NetworkManagerQt6-5.55.0-lp151.1.1.x86_64 libnm0-1.10.6-lp151.8.1.x86_64 libproxy1-networkmanager-0.4.15-lp151.3.5.x86_64 ## remainder of # rpm -qa | egrep -i 'kmanag|nm' | sort libopenmpt0-0.3.9-lp151.1.4.x86_64 libsnmp30-5.7.3-lp151.7.5.x86_64 net-snmp-5.7.3-lp151.7.5.x86_64 perl-SNMP-5.7.3-lp151.7.5.x86_64 plasma-nm5-5.12.8-lp151.1.1.x86_64 plasma-nm5-lang-5.12.8-lp151.1.1.noarch snmp-mibs-5.7.3-lp151.7.5.x86_64 typelib-1_0-NM-1_0-1.10.6-lp151.8.1.x86_64 What's missing? NetworkManager-applet, not installed, is described as GTK. Isn't there supposed to be something for NM not based upon GTK? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, 21 May 2019 05:24:36 -0400 Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> wrote:
I just installed NET on a 12 year old Vaio laptop. Extra details are in an unrelated bug report I filed: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1135723
This was a NET installation started from Grub template that I forgot to delete fixed IP configuration on before beginning, of LXQt pattern. Now I need to switch to DHCP, but there's no NM in YaST or anywhere I can find in menus, or in system tray, and YaST is blocked from changes by NM.
These are all the kmanag searched packages installed shown by YaST: NetworkManager-1.10.6-lp151.8.1.x86_64 NetworkManager-branding-openSUSE-42.1-lp151.3.2.noarch NetworkManager-lang-1.10.6-lp151.8.1.noarch libKF5NetworkManagerQt6-5.55.0-lp151.1.1.x86_64 libnm0-1.10.6-lp151.8.1.x86_64 libproxy1-networkmanager-0.4.15-lp151.3.5.x86_64
## remainder of # rpm -qa | egrep -i 'kmanag|nm' | sort libopenmpt0-0.3.9-lp151.1.4.x86_64 libsnmp30-5.7.3-lp151.7.5.x86_64 net-snmp-5.7.3-lp151.7.5.x86_64 perl-SNMP-5.7.3-lp151.7.5.x86_64 plasma-nm5-5.12.8-lp151.1.1.x86_64 plasma-nm5-lang-5.12.8-lp151.1.1.noarch snmp-mibs-5.7.3-lp151.7.5.x86_64 typelib-1_0-NM-1_0-1.10.6-lp151.8.1.x86_64
What's missing? NetworkManager-applet, not installed, is described as GTK. Isn't there supposed to be something for NM not based upon GTK?
It depends what you want. If you prefer cli, you can use nm-cli. If you want qt applet, check lxqt wiki for tips for applets. I just do not know if they are already packaged for openSUSE. https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/wiki/Third-party-apps#networking Josef -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hi, Being part of both upstream and openSUSE LXQt team here are my 5ct.
What's missing? NetworkManager-applet, not installed, is described as GTK. Isn't there supposed to be something for NM not based upon GTK?
It depends what you want. If you prefer cli, you can use nm-cli. If you want qt applet, check lxqt wiki for tips for applets. I just do not know if they are already packaged for openSUSE. https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/wiki/Third-party-apps#networking
We ship the GTK version since thats the most reliable gui version currently. Debian etc also ship the GTK version btw. I packaged nm-tray( https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/X11:LXQt/nm-tray ). But even the upstream author is not sure how well it behaves ;-) nm-tray is not part of LXQt yet, but developed by one of LXQts main devs. Once he feels it's ready it will be moved to the LXQt organization. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 21.05.19 um 11:24 schrieb Felix Miata:
What's missing? NetworkManager-applet, not installed, is described as GTK. Isn't> there supposed to be something for NM not based upon GTK? open an xterm, call "nmtui". Works also in virtual console. no GTK needed. -- Stefan Seyfried
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Stefan Seyfried composed on 2019-05-22 12:24 (UTC+0200):
Felix Miata composed
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What's missing? NetworkManager-applet, not installed, is described as GTK. Isn't> there supposed to be something for NM not based upon GTK?
open an xterm, call "nmtui". Works also in virtual console. no GTK needed.
WFM. :-) I hope I never have to explain it to the owner over the phone. :-p -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 23.05.19 um 08:48 schrieb Felix Miata:
Stefan Seyfried composed on 2019-05-22 12:24 (UTC+0200)
open an xterm, call "nmtui". Works also in virtual console. no GTK needed.
WFM. :-) I hope I never have to explain it to the owner over the phone. :-p
Well, for "over the phone", there is nmcli. You would not want to explain a GUI tool over the phone, would you? I would just install nm-applet and be done. Who cares if it is GTK if it works well. -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Stefan Seyfried composed on 2019-05-23 08:50 (UTC+0200):
Felix Miata composed:
Stefan Seyfried composed on 2019-05-22 12:24 (UTC+0200)
open an xterm, call "nmtui". Works also in virtual console. no GTK needed.
WFM. :-) I hope I never have to explain it to the owner over the phone. :-p
Well, for "over the phone", there is nmcli.
That there is. :-)
You would not want to explain a GUI tool over the phone, would you?
Want to, of course not. :-) Phone help is a fact of life. Some are luckier than others avoiding it. It's easier to tell someone where to click than instructing what to type in combination with locating the right keys to type.
I would just install nm-applet and be done. Who cares if it is GTK if it works well.
Zypper se -s finds no such package nm-applet. nm-tray seems to do the job. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 23.05.19 um 09:32 schrieb Felix Miata:
Stefan Seyfried composed on 2019-05-23 08:50 (UTC+0200):
I would just install nm-applet and be done. Who cares if it is GTK if it works well.
Zypper se -s finds no such package nm-applet. nm-tray seems to do the job.
``` seife@buddel:~> command-not-found nm-applet Program 'nm-applet' is present in package 'NetworkManager-applet', which is installed on your system. [...] ``` -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/23/2019 01:48 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
Stefan Seyfried composed on 2019-05-22 12:24 (UTC+0200):
Felix Miata composed
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What's missing? NetworkManager-applet, not installed, is described as GTK. Isn't> there supposed to be something for NM not based upon GTK?
open an xterm, call "nmtui". Works also in virtual console. no GTK needed.
WFM. :-) I hope I never have to explain it to the owner over the phone. :-p
I've run into similar issues in the past where pin interfaces to various apps would not work (gnupg, etc..) after a fresh minimal install preparing for KDE3. The problem usually is the result of forgetting the pinentry packages, e.g. pinentry pinentry-gtk2 May not be your issue here, but the package dependencies for various password type entries in several applications rely on some version of pinentry and the dependency isn't always pulled in. I'm about to try 15.1, so I'll report back if I see similar behavior. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
There is a package called "nm-tray" that uses Qt libraries, might be worth a try? On 5/21/19 11:24 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
I just installed NET on a 12 year old Vaio laptop. Extra details are in an unrelated bug report I filed: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1135723
This was a NET installation started from Grub template that I forgot to delete fixed IP configuration on before beginning, of LXQt pattern. Now I need to switch to DHCP, but there's no NM in YaST or anywhere I can find in menus, or in system tray, and YaST is blocked from changes by NM.
These are all the kmanag searched packages installed shown by YaST: NetworkManager-1.10.6-lp151.8.1.x86_64 NetworkManager-branding-openSUSE-42.1-lp151.3.2.noarch NetworkManager-lang-1.10.6-lp151.8.1.noarch libKF5NetworkManagerQt6-5.55.0-lp151.1.1.x86_64 libnm0-1.10.6-lp151.8.1.x86_64 libproxy1-networkmanager-0.4.15-lp151.3.5.x86_64
## remainder of # rpm -qa | egrep -i 'kmanag|nm' | sort libopenmpt0-0.3.9-lp151.1.4.x86_64 libsnmp30-5.7.3-lp151.7.5.x86_64 net-snmp-5.7.3-lp151.7.5.x86_64 perl-SNMP-5.7.3-lp151.7.5.x86_64 plasma-nm5-5.12.8-lp151.1.1.x86_64 plasma-nm5-lang-5.12.8-lp151.1.1.noarch snmp-mibs-5.7.3-lp151.7.5.x86_64 typelib-1_0-NM-1_0-1.10.6-lp151.8.1.x86_64
What's missing? NetworkManager-applet, not installed, is described as GTK. Isn't there supposed to be something for NM not based upon GTK?
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Benjamin Zeller composed on 2019-05-22 13:01 (UTC+0200):
Felix Miata wrote:
What's missing? NetworkManager-applet, not installed, is described as GTK. Isn't there supposed to be something for NM not based upon GTK?
There is a package called "nm-tray" that uses Qt libraries, might be worth a try?
Opened right up without me doing anything to cause it after zypper in. Either click brings up a menu, but selecting "Edit connections" just closes it, without producing anything in dmesg -w, or journalctl -e. :-p Connection information and disabling wifi work. :-) -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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