As far as I know that will be one of the last things to be fixed...

Hmm.

iirc you can use without too many issues the 11.3 one to install the evil's fonts --- joking.

I've done that right now, thanks. Werner -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On 2010/11/19 20:26 (GMT+0100) Guido Berhoerster composed:

Do these really need to be in a default pattern given that there is liberation-fonts?

Liberation is limited to one serif, one sans & one monospace. It, nor anything else, FOSS or otherwise commonly available, has any equivalent to Georgia, the best & largest apparent size of the legacy M$ serif fonts. Liberation Serif is smaller; DejaVu/Bitstream Vera Serif are larger. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Am Freitag, 19. November 2010, 22:21:32 schrieb Guido Berhoerster:

* Felix Miata [2010-11-19 20:33]:

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On 2010/11/19 20:26 (GMT+0100) Guido Berhoerster composed:

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Do these really need to be in a default pattern given that there is liberation-fonts?

Liberation is limited to one serif, one sans & one monospace. It, nor anything else, FOSS or otherwise commonly available, has any equivalent to Georgia, the best & largest apparent size of the legacy M$ serif fonts. Liberation Serif is smaller; DejaVu/Bitstream Vera Serif are larger.

I'm just questioning that these need to be installed by default.

I second this, we have good free fonts and I find the script to download the fonts rather hackish as it is hard to remove them afterwards. Or is there any good reason to pull in the msfonts for basicly every desktop install? Regards, Karsten -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Am Samstag, 20. November 2010, 14:35:58 schrieb Marcus Meissner:

On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 04:56:47AM +0100, Karsten König wrote:

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Am Freitag, 19. November 2010, 22:21:32 schrieb Guido Berhoerster:

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* Felix Miata [2010-11-19 20:33]:

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On 2010/11/19 20:26 (GMT+0100) Guido Berhoerster composed:

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Do these really need to be in a default pattern given that there is liberation-fonts?

Liberation is limited to one serif, one sans & one monospace. It, nor anything else, FOSS or otherwise commonly available, has any equivalent to Georgia, the best & largest apparent size of the legacy M$ serif fonts. Liberation Serif is smaller; DejaVu/Bitstream Vera Serif are larger.

I'm just questioning that these need to be installed by default.

I second this, we have good free fonts and I find the script to download the fonts rather hackish as it is hard to remove them afterwards. Or is there any good reason to pull in the msfonts for basicly every desktop install?

Its actually "rpm -e fetchmsttfonts" to remove them since 11.3, as the installed fonts are %ghosted.

Ciao, Marcus

Oh neat! They were pulled in on 11.1 for me and after that experience removing the pullin packages from the installation was basicly my first customisation step to avoid manual cleaning later on =/ Regards, Karsten -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org