Hi, I would say that this flame is now pointless. We have systemd in openSUSE as default no matter how much you flame about it. If you have issues with systemd, talk to Lennart. If you want to change openSUSE to have something else as default init, find viable alternative and start working on it, maintain it, get it included and then convince people here about it's benefits. These are the options that are not pointless. I would even suggest you to take a look at openRC as it has same feature set similar to systemd (init part), but uses bash scripted init files and might be supporting unit files in future(maybe now, haven't checked in a while) and also has an active upstream. -- Michal HRUSECKY SUSE LINUX, s.r.o. openSUSE Team Lihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xFED656F6 19000 Praha 9 mhrusecky[at]suse.cz Czech Republic http://michal.hrusecky.net http://www.suse.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org