Am Donnerstag, 15. April 2010 15:39:05 schrieb Christian:
First, many many thanks for doing this. Then it's not so strange that
nothing seems to happen when I do this myself. I really hope that this can
be resolved for Milestone6 of Opensuse. When you run the setup, did you
chooce to have Orca starting automatically when you login? I suppose you
did. Try answering no to that question and see what happens.
doesn't look like orca actually started, logout works fine then
If you are
able to login without any problems, try running orca again with alt-f2.
Crashes the session again.
this crashes the session, try running orca form a gnome-terminal when the
accessibility support has been enabled.
Can't see alot, looks like a python crash log, piping the output to a file
leads to http://pastebin.be/24376
On 2010-04-15 at 12:35 Karsten König wrote:
>ok I tried it now, when logged out the first selection possibility is to
>choose user, this will be livecd-user, hitting enter here will log you in
>without password question.
>But I also tried following your routine.
>On m5 pressing f9 on the boot selection screen freezes my virtualbox vm,
>be due to the vm. First entry is openSUSE - Live, so will boot into the
>After the gnome session started using alt+f2 to call orca, it will open a
>terminal and start setup with the language, reading out the text right
>I awnsered all questions with yes, except language (54- de) and system
>When the last question appears (want to relogin) a new window pops open
>the focus :-(
>alt+tab once gets you back to the terminal with the setup question,
>now to logout gets you to the gnome login screen, hitting enter once will
>you back in.
>Problem is now orca doesn't start, the application gnome-settings-daemon
>crashed and wants you to send a bugreport, no orca though =(
>alt+f2 doesn't work anymore and starting orca through the menu makes the
>Sorry I this doesn't help you for now, we can try again with milestone 6.
>Am Donnerstag, 15. April 2010 01:02:35 schrieb Christian:
>> Hi Bryen and all,
>> OK, this doesn't work. After the accessibility support is enabled I
>> press ente rto log out and when I am logged out I press enter twice but
>> it doesn't work. There is no password on the live CD?
>> I suppose it's not.
>> Many thanks,
>> On 2010-04-14 at 16:59 Bryen M. Yunashko wrote:
>> >On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 23:13 +0200, Christian wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >> OK, this is my last message to this list and noone seems to be
>> >> willing
>> >to help.
>> >> This is so simple for you opensuse user's. If logged out from
>> >many times should one press the tab key in order to get to the login
>> >button or is there some keyboard command for enabling this button?
>> >> And finally, where can I post suggestions so that they will be
>> >implemented in some future release of the OS?
>> >> This is important, at least to me when it comes to accessibility.
>> >> Many thanks,
>> >> Christian
>> >On 11.2 (don't have Factory set up yet), I have the following steps:
>> >- Hit Enter (assuming your user is the first on the list) If not, then
>> >arrow key down to the user you wish to log in as.
>> >- Type password (hit enter)
>> >- You're logged in.
>> >Assuming there's nothing drastically different with the GDM login in
>> >Factory vs. 11.2, this should work the same.
>> >Now, about accessibility,
>> >There are many challenges that openSUSE (as well as other distros) face
>> >when it comes to ensuring accessibility. Most, if not all, of our
>> >developers don't actually use accessibility tools and try their best
>> >from an unknown perspective to meet the needs of accessibility. The
>> >problem has been further compounded by the fact that we do not have
>> >many accessibility users come forward to specifically test
>> >accessibility on openSUSE as well as make recommendations for
>> >I'm glad you've come forward and made yourself known as an
>> >accessibility user and we need more like you to speak up and give
>> >constructive feedback on what needs to be improved. I am also an
>> >accessibility user and have low-vision. I've worked along with
>> >Stephen Shaw to raise awareness and I'm very proud of our
>> >openSUSE-GNOME team for trying their best to make it more effective
>> >despite the odds against them.
>> >There has been some recent discussion by those of us (very few of us
>> >exist!) about how we can make openSUSE even better as an accessible
>> >distribution. I'd love for you to come forth and join us on this
>> >discussion as we look into better ways to grow our accessibility
>> >community within openSUSE.
>> >It can be frustrating for you, as well as for me at times. But please
>> >do know, that I vouch for the openSUSE developers in that they
>> >genuinely DO care about accessibility but have limited resources to
>> >make it perfect. Education and awareness will go a long way and we
>> >need more people like you to speak up and make yourselves known. For
>> >example, I didn't know about you until very recently. :-)
>> >What will really help also is if we can learn about how you use
>> >computing in an accessible way. Accessibility varies by user. For me,
>> >I am a low vision user, and my method of usage is quite different than
>> >that of a completely blind user, for example.
>> >You are welcome to email me privately or to discuss your concerns about
>> >approaches to accessibility or if you wish to start a thread on
>> >accessibility, the better place to do that is probably on our Project
>> >mailing list as that will get even more people aware of the issues, not
>> >just the developers and testers in factory.
>> >Looking forward to hearing from you soon!
>> >Bryen M Yunashko
>> >openSUSE Board Member (and accessibility user!)
>> >openSUSE Marketing Team Lead
>> >GNOME Accessibility Team Outreach
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