Hi Pete, On Tue, 30 Jul 2019, 16:34:59 +0200, Hans-Peter Jansen wrote:
Dear Manfred, dear Richard,
Am Dienstag, 30. Juli 2019, 15:01:46 CEST schrieb Richard Brown:
[...] OSTree is using /usr/etc to store data for their three-way-diff-merge of configuration files. On *BSD, users have to edit the files in /usr/etc, while in our case, this should be "read-only", and user have to create the changes in /etc. There are distributions who did the "UsrMerge" by moving /etc to /usr/etc and makeing /etc a symlink to /usr
I don't care much about *BSD layout, but since OSTree seems an interesting project, as well as the last point renders this approach problematic at least.
So he concludes:
What would happen if we choose /usr/etc and other distributions cannot follow us?
we are the only one who are doing, and will always be different
The others will come up with another standard, and either we are
alone/different, or have to do the work a second time.
I don't like any of this options.
Let me add: we should not interfere with libostree based projects (which would make libostree based projects unfeasible for our platform, especially since some Fedora-based projects adapt this already).
So this is enough evidence of not using /usr/etc, no matter how much we all agree on this choice otherwise, isn't it?
Nevertheless, Thorsten still kept /usr/etc in hist list when opening the second round ;) To be honest, libostree has a pretty clear focus, which does not actually cover much of what I care about, at least. OpenEmbedded sounds great, but I doubt, there will be any relevant standard adhered to by any of all the players outside building and selling their embedded Linux appliances - I spent too much time talking with all of them between 1999 to 2006; everybody was listening, but nobody wanted to buy into it... "flatpak", I don't give a shit at all! "GNOME Continuous", again, I don't like GNOME either... So, to me it sounds more how much we can win building on a long established relationship between /etc <-> /usr/etc, rather than running discussions which may lead to nowhere... At least, we're in the second round this time, thanks Thorsten! FWIW, I certainly can live with /usr/config, but from where I come from, /usr/etc appears much more appealing and well known and established.
Cheers, Pete
Cheers. l8er manfred