ok I tried it now, when logged out the first selection possibility is to
choose user, this will be livecd-user, hitting enter here will log you in
without password question.
But I also tried following your routine.
On m5 pressing f9 on the boot selection screen freezes my virtualbox vm, might
be due to the vm. First entry is openSUSE - Live, so will boot into the GNOME
After the gnome session started using alt+f2 to call orca, it will open a
terminal and start setup with the language, reading out the text right away.
I awnsered all questions with yes, except language (54- de) and system
When the last question appears (want to relogin) a new window pops open taking
the focus :-(
alt+tab once gets you back to the terminal with the setup question, pressing y
now to logout gets you to the gnome login screen, hitting enter once will log
you back in.
Problem is now orca doesn't start, the application gnome-settings-daemon
crashed and wants you to send a bugreport, no orca though =(
alt+f2 doesn't work anymore and starting orca through the menu makes the
Sorry I this doesn't help you for now, we can try again with milestone 6.
Am Donnerstag, 15. April 2010 01:02:35 schrieb Christian:
Hi Bryen and all,
OK, this doesn't work. After the accessibility support is enabled I press
ente rto log out and when I am logged out I press enter twice but it
doesn't work. There is no password on the live CD?
I suppose it's not.
On 2010-04-14 at 16:59 Bryen M. Yunashko wrote:
>On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 23:13 +0200, Christian wrote:
>> OK, this is my last message to this list and noone seems to be willing
>> This is so simple for you opensuse user's. If logged out from Gnome, how
>many times should one press the tab key in order to get to the login
>button or is there some keyboard command for enabling this button?
>> And finally, where can I post suggestions so that they will be
>implemented in some future release of the OS?
>> This is important, at least to me when it comes to accessibility.
>> Many thanks,
>On 11.2 (don't have Factory set up yet), I have the following steps:
>- Hit Enter (assuming your user is the first on the list) If not, then
>arrow key down to the user you wish to log in as.
>- Type password (hit enter)
>- You're logged in.
>Assuming there's nothing drastically different with the GDM login in
>Factory vs. 11.2, this should work the same.
>Now, about accessibility,
>There are many challenges that openSUSE (as well as other distros) face
>when it comes to ensuring accessibility. Most, if not all, of our
>developers don't actually use accessibility tools and try their best
>from an unknown perspective to meet the needs of accessibility. The
>problem has been further compounded by the fact that we do not have many
>accessibility users come forward to specifically test accessibility on
>openSUSE as well as make recommendations for improvements.
>I'm glad you've come forward and made yourself known as an accessibility
>user and we need more like you to speak up and give constructive
>feedback on what needs to be improved. I am also an accessibility user
>and have low-vision. I've worked along with Stephen Shaw to raise
>awareness and I'm very proud of our openSUSE-GNOME team for trying their
>best to make it more effective despite the odds against them.
>There has been some recent discussion by those of us (very few of us
>exist!) about how we can make openSUSE even better as an accessible
>distribution. I'd love for you to come forth and join us on this
>discussion as we look into better ways to grow our accessibility
>community within openSUSE.
>It can be frustrating for you, as well as for me at times. But please
>do know, that I vouch for the openSUSE developers in that they genuinely
>DO care about accessibility but have limited resources to make it
>perfect. Education and awareness will go a long way and we need more
>people like you to speak up and make yourselves known. For example, I
>didn't know about you until very recently. :-)
>What will really help also is if we can learn about how you use
>computing in an accessible way. Accessibility varies by user. For me,
>I am a low vision user, and my method of usage is quite different than
>that of a completely blind user, for example.
>You are welcome to email me privately or to discuss your concerns about
>approaches to accessibility or if you wish to start a thread on
>accessibility, the better place to do that is probably on our Project
>mailing list as that will get even more people aware of the issues, not
>just the developers and testers in factory.
>Looking forward to hearing from you soon!
>Bryen M Yunashko
>openSUSE Board Member (and accessibility user!)
>openSUSE Marketing Team Lead
>GNOME Accessibility Team Outreach
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