Hello argument taken Simon, however, the situation right now is that we have a default wallpaper for about a year now (since Beta of 15.5 I believe) that already has this new logo and we have about showing the modernized logo. That wallpaper received warm feedback, approval from the SUSE Branding team etc. Specifically the Leap logo modernization was happening in PRs in github.com/openSUSE/artwork and branding way before any poll was considered. https://github.com/openSUSE/branding/pull/138 I'm not sure if people actually looked at the wallpaper and realized it. So do we keep mixed logos across distro, is that what I'm reading? I find this situation pretty awkward as arguments are turning me away from fixing the inconsistency. I feel people are raising arguments from the openSUSE project logo change, also for "distribution logo tuneup". I used tuneup on purpose in the case of Leap, as it's effectively slimmed-down variant of the very same logo. I'm aware that other distributions might be in a different situation. Cheers Lubos On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 12:14 PM Simon Lees <sflees@suse.de> wrote:
On 1/5/24 19:42, Richard Brown wrote:
On 2024-01-04 20:34, Lubos Kocman via openSUSE Factory wrote:
I get your concerns, but If you check the wallpaper in 15.6 and 15.5 it's already using the "modernized Leap logo" which "luckily" also won in the survey. So far nobody complained about wallpaper and I feel that the wallpaper was accepted very well. So it's really about finishing what's already halfway done. I'm not touching any other graphics.
https://github.com/openSUSE/branding/blob/leap-15.5/raw-theme-drop/desktop-1... https://github.com/openSUSE/distribution-logos/tree/main/Leap (so all I need to do is just to submit it here).
I interpret your above reply as "I get your concerns but we're going to move ahead anyway"
This approach, which is has been demonstrated repeatedly in this process, is precisely the source of all of my dislike of any such change.
I wholeheartedly agree with Christian Boltz
Changing something as important as our projects identity should not be forced upon the Project and we have a Membership and Membership votes precisely for ensuring such major changes to the Project proceed with consent of the people who make up the heart of this Project.
When we last discussed changing the logo several years back (We were considering it along with the name), The Board at the time decided it would be best to do such a change only with a vote by members as its really something that affects all parts of the project.
I tend to agree with Christian and Richard here and if I am elected to the board for this year having a membership vote for such a change is something i'll bring to the board pretty quickly.
I'll disagree with Axel and say that there could be valid reasons why we as a project would want a different logo and I believe that someone could create a compelling case as to why we as a project should change logo and present that to members. But in my opinion that's the way to make such a major change.
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