Am 24.02.19 um 15:17 schrieb Manfred Hollstein:
On Sun, 24 Feb 2019, 12:34:51 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 23/02/2019 21.57, David C. Rankin wrote:
[...] This seems like a complete unintended consequence to some packaging change. There is no reason we should no have to run:
# zypper up --no-recommends
Don't. Instead taboo qemu and brltty
No, please! Nobody, other than a developer (or some guys who have to run virtualised systems, but even then, that's a very special case!) _needs_ qemu!
Well, but then a non-developer (or some guys who have to do packaging, but even then, that's a very special case!) do _neeed_ build. So if build.rpm is installed, recommending qemu is not such a stupid idea.
If they do, they should select a particular pattern (or profile or role) which pulls in the stuff that's really necessary for it. The whole "Recommends:" is bad from my point of view; it's nothing than a vehicle that gets used to work-around such additional patterns (or profiles or roles). I have to admit there are other examples where a recommended package is sensible, but most of the times, it appears such packages should actually be "Required:". FWIW, FMPOV, "Recommends:" gets abused while there are other ways to help pull in such packages when really needed.
Recommends is just not fine grained enough, so I agree here (I always use "--no-recommends", dealing with the fallout of this is much easier for me than having to buy a bigger disk every three months ;-) -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org