How to join the meeting?
https://calendar.opensuse.org/teams/release/events/opensuse-release-engineering-meeting
All meeting minutes can be found here:
https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-meeting
## Attendees:
DimStar, GuillaumeG, Adamm, Sarah, Richard, max, ddemaio, dirk, bmwiedemann
NOTICE! the meeting url is https://meet.opensuse.org/meeting
## Leap
Leap 16.0 agama installation in openQA with custom urls is finally working
https://github.com/os-autoinst/os-autoinst-distri-opensuse/pull/20064 and
https://github.com/os-autoinst/openqa-trigger-from-obs/commit/8a5d90845f6a505688ec88925596d7b4b8959c8d
Initial merge of KDE into Leap 16.0 (~800 submissions). Build still in
progress on s390x.
KDE addition addition into Leap 16.0 / agama
https://github.com/openSUSE/agama/pull/1571
Branding related
Initialwork on ultrawide wallpaper for Tumbleweed
Experiments with geo-based wallpapers for 16.0
https://github.com/lkocman/geo-wallpapers
I'm bit unhappy about current packaging of wallpapers
https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/lkocman-packaging
I shall start working on Leap Micro 6.1 Beta
## openSUSE Tumbleweed (DimStar)
openSUSE:Factory build fail stats: 134 failed 23 unresolvable (last
week 15 failed, 9 unresolvable)
https://tinyurl.com/ysy4nnnz (big increase due to more things trying
to rebuild with gcc14;
https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/openSUSE:Factory:Rebuild shows
the resutls when we'd use rebuild=transitive, i.e 559 failed packages)
424 requests accepted in the last week
Most relevant changes:
Switch to GCC14 as default compiler in 20240827 (emacs was locked on
GCC13 as it fails test suite with gcc13)
Kernel 6.10.7
Other updates:
NetworkManager 1.48.10
openSSH 9.8p1
python numpy2 - by far not everything is ready for that, so numpy 1.x
will be re-introduced
Blocked:
perl-Bootloader to be renamed to update-bootloader, openQA tests needs
updating https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/165686
python-Sphinx 8.0.2: causes a few breakages, Staging:L
Boost 1.86: LibreOffice fails to build
go 1.23 as new distro default: ignition fails to build
(https://github.com/coreos/ignition/issues/1931)
### longer-lasting topics
Switch default LSM from AppArmor to SELinux, see
https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/factory@lists.opensuse.org/thread/YN4TCBCU4A2V5G2MWR5EWYF46267BO7F/
## Richard (Aeon+botmaster)
Recovering after weeks of serious illness.
Catching up with everything that happened in the past weeks.
Not aware of any burning issues with Aeon. Looking forward to picking
up Aeon/tik and pushng them towards release..
Reading up on some discussions regarding tuning up the deploment of
opensuse-release-tools to botmaster
Q, Toying with the idea of volunteering Aeon as an exemplar/pathfinder
for git workflow, does that sound feasible?
lkocman: We do already have git for Leap:16.0:Images, but the main
image agama-installer-Leap is currently built in openSUSE:Leap:16.0
## Max
Leap 16.0
* Merged kde packages to Leap 16.0, some kapps are pending in staging
still, the requirement for patterns-kde is fulfilled at least. Max
mentioned that we finally broke the 1000 packages count in 16.0 :-)
* Disabled devel_web pattern for the time being until we know the
desicision about virtualization package
* Working on check_source make it to made submission on hold if the
target package exist in SLFO
* A script has uploaded SLFO packagelist to
https://build.opensuse.org/projects/openSUSE:Leap:16.0:Staging/packages/dashboard/files/SLFO_Packagelist.group?expand=1
in case you want to adjust your tooling against SLFO packagelist and
don't want to checkout gittree every time
lkocman: agama - KDE was added as an option for Leap 16.0
lkocman: Dimstar mentioned that perhaps we want to make a storage HW
request for 16.0, as we'll build more trees and images than in 15.3+
(where we started to use adi stagings only).
Adrian: the entire model of stagings might change, there is multiple
possibilities. It's also the data transfer aside from pure storage.
Max: Same situation with staging will happen soon on Tumbleweed.
## Guillaume - Arm
Tumbleweed:
* Rolling
* Submitted fixes for some build failures related to GCC14
(starting with packages from ring1)
* User complained about missing web browsers for armv7 -
https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/arm@lists.opensuse.org/thread/5LLTUPZTYMDWPN5CMD4TLGB3EC67HRZT/
Leap 15.5:
* RPi3 boot problem related to a kernel update
https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1225352
Leap 15.6:
* No blocker
## Sarah - s390x
* Tumbleweed rolling
* s390-tools are updated
Topic openSUSE on Hercules
* hercules package not compatible with openSUSE Tumbleweed (x86) any more
-> new project on Github https://github.com/SDL-Hercules-390/hyperion
-> submitted
Hints about special instructions in Hercules:
https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-390@vm.marist.edu/msg74185.html
Kernel problem with Leap/Tumbleweed on new Hercules emulator (zram
kernel trace):
https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-390@vm.marist.edu/msg74187.html
-> takeover by SUSE (Marcela)
AI packages by IBM installable with anaconda Python Installer (conda install):
RedBook AI for Linux on Z published:
https://ibm.github.io/ai-on-z-101/blog/archive/2024/
(https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/zsystems@lists.opensuse.org/thread/XYCIDF7DXWUIU5HQO2S7S73A7PHPY2IM/)
User feedback about reasons for switching from Leap to Tumbleweed
(because of Upgrade problems):
https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-390@vm.marist.edu/msg74188.html
Leap 16.0 will very likely have similar maintenance workflow as Leap
Micro 6.1, which does not utilize :Update project. Perhaps some of
these issues would simply go away by design.
lkocman: the mentioned upgrade issues were a past issue which was
already resolved. We've clarified it over email.
## Doug
* openSUSE.Asia Summit
* A couple talks cancelled by prospective speakers
* TSP
* 16 of 28 accepted so far
* Akademy begins this weekend
* FOSDEM
* No call for booth yet
* Dates are likely to be 01.02 & 02.02
* Provided small article about slowroll snapshots
* Establishing roadmap for https://github.com/openSUSE/lessons
* GSoC
* 10 or 11 finals complete
* 1 final extention due on Sept. 30
lkocman: LinuxDays 2024 (11-12 Oct) followed by Packaging workshop in
Prague. We have I believe ~5 talks from SUSE employees.
## Dirk
No update
## Wolfgang (Package Hub), Scott Bahling, Nathan Cutler
Package HUB for SLES 16 talk on next Wednesday (after this call).
A high level discussion about what should we make available in Package
HUB module and what not.
## Maintenance team (Marcus, Robert)
* Sarah mentioned 20 downgrades of packages during distribution
upgrade. Details in
https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-390@vm.marist.edu/msg74188.html
lkocman: will open a bug report and will get list of packages from the ML above.
need more maintainers for future chromium updates after Andreas
Stieger stepped down.
## Adrian - OBS
Heads up: planning regarding offline installer for Agama.
## Bernhard - Slowroll
had trouble from incompatible dbus-1 update => reverted
preparing next version bump to 20240901 - planned in a week
## Bernhard - reproducible builds
see https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/factory@lists.opensuse.org/thread/2XMBAI6G4ZFAS7LFWM2XPYHZYMG5C2GF/
I plan to attend the r-b summit in Hamburg 2024-09-17
want to see merged
https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-tools/pull/3129 => needs
change to create adiN:rb subproject to not block progress of
submissions with slow builds (e.g. chromium 18h+) or failing timebombs
(e.g. python-gpstime)
## Adam - Git Workflow
{wip} migrating project workflow to RabbitMQ + polling (in case events lost)
TODO: migrate NodeJS devel project after above is done
## Open Floor
lkocman: Sebastian Riedel raised a problem with ownership of
legal-auto.py (OSRT). We got the change it, but nobody seem to be
officially owning the tool. Maybe move it into SUSE org.