Hello Dne úterý 21. června 2016 9:23:23 CEST, Richard Brown napsal(a):
In advance of Thursdays openSUSE Conference Workshop on the topic[1], I'd like to share with you all what I've been working on for replacing/improving software.opensuse.org
Myself, I'm fairly happy with the current version. The only thing I dislike little bit is a list of searched software.
My main goals have been to reduce the technical complexity of the current page (which often struggles under the heavy load of release days) while also doing a much better job of reflecting the offerings provided by the opensuse project and providing clearer help to users.
Why do users typically go to web to search of packages? Because they do not find the package in the main repository via YaST/zypper and I'd consider as very wrong to hide package search. Rather make better handling of YMP files and “1-click install”.
This email is a 'RFC' in two senses - not only am I keen to see Comments on the progress so far, but I would greatly appreciate Commits to improve what I have so far before this goes into production.
I'm sorry I'm unable to help with coding. Few my comments: 1) There is missing introduction of what openSUSE is and why to download. 2) I see section "Chosing which Distribution to Download” on the front page as unneeded repetition - there is short introduction in the table above (OK, could be bit longer, but never mind) and more detailed description should be on next pages. 3) From the page I don't see difference between Testing and TW. This is little bit confusing. 4) I know it is not translated yet, but I see as very important to have some language switcher on very well visible place (e.g. top-right corner). 5) Otherwise I like the concept, I'd just appreciate also links to documentation.
The main thing that is desperately needed before I feel this new site is viable as a replacement for software.opensuse.org is a translation solution. I have been evaluating Polyglot [2] which seems to be a viable solution, but due to limited time and an inability to translate any other language, I would really like help getting it implemented.
Why not to use Weblate https://l10n.opensuse.org/ ? I'll repeat the above statement, unlike www.opensuse.org, we should really place here language switcher on immediately visible place.
You may notice the absence of the software search (besides the link in the top right hand corner).
This is intentional. Attendees to the openSUSE conference can see my talk on Saturday at 11:00 [3] to understand why I think we should be de-emphasising the software search, and in addition to my personal opinion I am hopeful that Thursdays workshop will open doors to other solutions to the problems with the current package search.
I must politely disagree. I understand and respect willing of stability of the “main” distribution by not using any 3rd party pacakges (not even from OBS), but as You are talking about user-centrism, the users wish a lot of packages. The packages are commonly available in OBS. I must say I haven't had any problem with packages from OBS and I consider the current warning to be enough. OK, packages from main repositry can be green, from OBS project repositories orange, from home directories red. For instance. I'd just appreciate rather table display of results with some more details (could be optional) and possibilities to filter them. IMHO, hiding of this possibility does not help to the users. I'd rather see more effort for flawless installation of OBS packages. For example, how can You get Bumblebee to work without OBS? I use a lot of packages from Science repo. I consider it as better option tha downloading and compiling wverything from home pages. Sincerely, V. -- Vojtěch Zeisek Komunita openSUSE GNU/Linuxu Community of the openSUSE GNU/Linux https://www.opensuse.org/ https://trapa.cz/