On 3/26/22 19:10, Eric Schirra wrote:
Am 26. März 2022 09:03:32 MEZ schrieb Simon Lees firstname.lastname@example.org:
On 3/26/22 02:36, Martin Wilck wrote:
On Fri, 2022-03-25 at 17:03 +0100, Eric Schirra wrote:
In my opinion, all results should be displayed. Whether official or not. This was also the case before 15.3. And you should let the user decide what he wants.
Ack. Hiding the non-official repos would make the tool essentially useless. With just official repos, it couldn't do much more than "zypper search" + "zypper install" would be able to achieve.
Yeah I guess that's part of my point, if as a project we decide that we don't want to push 3rd party repo's then maybe we don't really need a tool like software.o.o, sure it's nice to have but the project won't fall apart and won't be less useable without it.
Not WE don't want. YOU don't want.
Third party was Show since very long time.
Are Devel repos third-party ,too? Without this also s.o.o not useless.
Yes, any repo that has packages that haven't been reviewed by the review team and gone through our checkers are not considered official packages which frequently includes code in devel repos even though it will be reviewed later.
Devel repos are designed to be used by developers not users and as such you have no indication whether they are intended to be used by users or if they may break things.
We need a tool to search for packages, so we can add repos we need. Without s.o.o I can not find such repo.
build.opensuse.org contains a search and all info you need to add the right repo yes its slightly less friendly
If people actually want it then they can work on it but maybe the better question is what packages are "general users" rather then "power users" actually using from 3rd party repos and can we get those into the distros they use so they don't actually need the tool.
S.o.o is the first place to search for software.
No zypper and Yast should be they both list all the software that we as a project officially support. Even adding a devel project may break a users system if not done right especially for certain devel projects. If users add a package without adding a devel project then it will never be updated so we simply can't support users who do this, they do it at there own risk so if its slightly harder to do thats not the end of the world.
Really if we don't have packages people need in the main repo's thats something we should fix by adding them there, unlike some other distro's the restrictions to get packages into openSUSE are pretty light so generally there is no reason why a package couldn't end up in the distro.