19.10.2017 00:01, Christopher Myers пишет:
It deeply saddens me how terribly human beings treat each other.
Christian, you very much owe an apology to the folks you just lambasted. There is absolutely no excuse for someone to act the way that you did,
Sorry? Christian was wrong in telling someone to behave properly?!? What should he apologize for?
especially over something that, in the grand scheme of life, matters so very very little.
Atri, while I don't use Gnome, I very much appreciate the (often thankless) effort that you and the other maintainers put in on our behalf.
On Wed, 2017-10-18 at 21:35 +0200, badshah400@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Christian,
As one of these voluntary contributors to the openSUSE GNOME desktop*, I am __personally__ offended by the email quoted below, and furthermore by the board's tolerance of such toxic insult, by essentially rewarding virulence** with a slap-of-the-wrist "consider yourself warned" message.
Let's just summarise what the email alleges about me, given that I am part of the GNOME team: * I want to be an asshole to the whole userbase, * So-called "maintainer" who sits with thumb up someone else's arse, and * A useless prick.
In response, you "warned" him. Yeah, much good that will do!!! If every single one of us gets one chance to spit such insult on someone else on this ML, I am pretty sure you know how that will turn out. While I understand differences in opinion can drive conflict which can sometimes straddle the boundary of civil and not-so-civil, this kind of abuse is not something anyone, let alone the board of a respectable community organisation, ought to tolerate. Even. Once.
Please consider this my official complaint against this particular individual, and against this policy of warn once no-matter-how-bad.
* I also voluntarily devote my not-all-that-much free time toward the maintenance of several packages in the science and Education projects. ** No, I won't just accept and move on, in case you are wondering. Nobody told me I had to first build the skin of a rhino to contribute to an opensource community project. *** In case you received my email twice, apologies! My previous message didn't get through to the list, as far as I can see. -- Atri B (irc nick: badshah400)
On Wed, 2017-10-18 at 14:30 +0200, Christian Boltz wrote:
Hi Sergey,
Am Mittwoch, 18. Oktober 2017, 10:13:51 CEST schrieb Sergey Kondakov:
Then this "final decision" makes even less sense. It's like someone just wants to be an asshole to whole userbase. How the hell it's a random user's responsibility to single-handedly fix core functionality _and_ deal with upstream while these so called "maintainers", "teams" and paid project leader himself comfortably sit with each others' thumbs up their assess ? First take (if you too irresponsible to even find/make it yourself) the fix in your "product" and then deal with upstream yourselves, you useless pricks !
Please adjust your tone!
Flaming and insulting people won't help you to convince someone to fulfil your wish (quite the opposite). The only thing you improve this way is the chance to get banned from the mailinglist. (Consider this an official warning from the Board!)
Please also take a few minutes to read https://en.opensuse.org/Guiding_principles and act in a way that follows our guiding principles.
Regards,
Christian Boltz -- <sarnold> the old "which is worse, X or Y?" game :) <mancha> which is worse, the which is worse game or recursion jokes?
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