(testing usage of bcc suggested by Dan to have same message id for @suse.de and @opensuse.org) All meeting minutes can be found here: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-meeting ## Participants lkocman, rbrown, adrian, ddemaio, maxlin, dirk, michel, dleuenberger, berthold, GuillaumeG ## Leap https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-bug-smashing-ideas-202008... Reviewed ^ Next steps is to put down initial draft of policy and send it for review just like Tier1 architecture policy Processing results of retro https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:15.2/Retrospective Issues are being reported here: https://progress.opensuse.org/projects/leap152retro/issues (now public) cups and network printing: we will most likely need to find a new maintainer. Meeting with Team Lead in two weeks from now. s390x resources: Ihno mentioned that he can have a look if we could have more resources available. s390x openQA situation, we'll invite Berthold to rel-eng meetings. Issue is tracked in poo#69328 openQA problems are currently not blocked on resources, but it's more on the openQA state/configuration itself. Lubos to double check on Berthold's response on opensuse- project@/opensuse-factory@. Dirk will talk to him. Berthold: I'll not be able to give definitive answer on this topic at least not in next a few weeks. ## openSUSE Tumbleweed * The DNS issues on openQA have mostly been resolved (new DNS in the SUSE/DMZ is referenced) - except the new DNS server filters out dnssec records which causes some few issues in tests. We still have ariel configured to use Google's DNS Servers for now * RPM's /usr/libexec change passed all builds by now - continuing with openQA fallouts There is a list of packages that presumably uses libexecdir wrongly: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/libexecdir ^ Anyone who has a time to have a look at the list is more than welcome! ## ddemaio * Sending out Getting Started with Linux magazines * openSUSE + LibreOffice Conference * Confirming talks (Confirm Sept. 6) * SUSE and LibreOffice Keynotes. * Hacktoberfest - https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/hacktoberfest2020 - (lkocman joined) * Should we move to https://meet2.opensuse.org/ReleaseEngineeringMeeting - Let's move while it's hot. Lubos will update invitation to use the new instance. ## Dirk We need to have a closure on the topic. Dirk will send email, we have to start with Tumbleweed and document it. Feedback regarding 5% of build failures seems to be seen as too relaxed. Ludwig: Perhaps having build failure for more than x-weeks on Ring:0/Ring:1 or any submission to it (:Adis) could retract the state. Dominique: ppc64le was blocking stagings for a week until we could get build done. Otherwise we usually have it done in few days. Richard: we have to have Ring0/Ring1 always working. If we don't have the infra for :Staging than we can't make architecture Tier1. Dirk: We do not have this detail (topic above) documented. Ludwig: It's implicit. Dirk: Agreement with Guillaume on aarch64/TW is that architecture is treated as a primary. Dominique: We have a current agreement to have aarch64 images next to x86_64, not necessarily as treat it as primary, that would then be outcome of this effort. Ludwig: we may be aiming for 3 tier policy, not the 2 tier policy. With x86_64 being the reference. Ludwig: let's have followup discussion on mailing list. ## Guillaume - Arm Tumbleweed: * Snapshot 20200807 released late because main aarch64 openqa worker was down and nobody restarted it before Monday. Jump: Regressions from 15.2 to Jump * openSUSE vs SUSE signing keys for Secureboot: https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/69832 * GNOME autologin is broken again (was fixed by 15.2): https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1175470 * Colors in terminal (for textmode) are wrong again (was fixed in 15.2): https://openqa.opensuse.org/tests/1365380#step/first_boot/3 * VLC is missing on aarch64: https://openqa.opensuse.org/tests/1364387#step/vlc/11 ETA on re-syncing packages from SLE-15.2 / Leap 15.2 + updates. We have to double check on this. Seems like the problem is in packages with SLE origin. ## Gerald No update. ## Max * pkglistgen produced different result on botmaster than the result from my local run - investigating ** Updated my local machine to latest TW snapshot, still can not reproduce it locally, need to dump solv files on botmaster Who is in charge of metrics? We just received a pull request https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-tools/pull/2464 Lubos: to talk to Mili regarding ownership of services that used to be maintained/owned by Jimmy. Ludwig: If service isn't working, then we can't see statistics and we're blind. deneb_alpha: could be this -> https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/69535 Lubos: https://jira.suse.com/browse/PM-2094 - Allow vendor change from openSUSE -> SUSE, SUSE -> openSUSE on the Leap installation media. :ToTest publishing happens it was just triggered manually by Adrian. We do publish from :ToTest to staging. Publish ftp-prod is blocked on admin@opensuse.org request. ## Adrian - Jump * No news Discussion about how to implement the mirror submit requests (OBS-63). Implement aggregation of all update streams to have an update repo. Looking into obsgendiff. I'll look into the PR after this meeting. ## Michel working on PowerPC failing packages in TW, about memory and disk constraints. ## Richard k8s 1.19 work in progress k8s 1.18.8 and 1.17.11 released Had a major bug with microos-tools that broke systems that didn't have /tmp on tmpfs - easy workaround, remove /tmp from /etc/fstab (which makes /tmp on tmpfs). etcd CVE - still waiting for upstream's new version which will be part of k8s 1.19 and reworking the packages for multi-version k8s. Learning how to be a staging manager ## Tom Not present ## Wolfgang Not present ## Ludwig Leap 15.2 MicroOS is temporarily paused. ## Overview of Commmunity SLE Feature Requests (See details in https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Leap/SLEFeatureRequests ) (This section will be newly part of ReleaseEngineering meeting minutes) * Hardware enablement printing/scanners: Update sane to 1.0.29 (PM- 2118) - Pending ECO approvals - Pending PM Evaluation - Aiming for maintenance update for SLE-15-SP2:Update. Pending ECO Approvals. * DNF for SLE / Leap Next (PM-2044) - Status is NEW - List of benefits was put together by Neal Gompa and Daniel Mach - Request was raised to PM attention - A lot of discussion over the entire July (this topic got really good visibility). A TODO list from mls that is making it really difficult No offering of solutions if there are dependency problems (dnf just exits) No concept of package vendors No support for products Completely different handling of maintenance updates, i.e. no support of patches No support for patterns No support for translations No support for modalias() supplements to install needed kernel modules No support for language supplements metalink support in librepo only for a complete repository, i.e not file based. This does not fit our download redirector No support for services No support for product licenses No support for L3 tags Different lock handling Does not understand a repo consisting of multiple media I don't see how YaST can work with libdnf * Add python 3.8 support (PM-1482) - New awaiting PM evaluation - Originally requested for Blender but, now it seems like people generally ask for 3.8 to be available. - Notified PM that this topic is getting attention - Packaging team is working on py38 39 etc via koinstall - python38 request for Factory https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/openSUSE:Factory:Staging:B * Please update glibc to 2.29 or newer (PM-2030) - Under Evaluation - Originally reported as https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1173761 - Deferred to the next release, can't be done as a maintenance update. - Currently under evaluation for SLE 15 SP3. PM is in favor of the request. * Update Apparmor to 2.13.4 (PM-1983) - In Progress, TPM Evaluation is done Defered to SP3 Hi Lubos, apparmor in SLE15 SP2 is already at 2.13.4. However, it is not at what Christian wants it to be. Christian has put a big patch called changes-since-2.13.4.diff to upgrade it. This was agreed to be released in SP3 * lqxt-build-tools update to 0.7.0 (PM-1914) - DONE - Deferred to SP3 * add authselect for managing auth stack configuration (PM-1881) - Pending PM Evaluation - Aiming for 15 SP3 - PM generally likes the idea, we're looking for a feedback from Security team. Security team wants to hear feedback from Architect as there seems to be an overlap with pam-config. - Thorsten (Architect) mentioned that we'll have to find resources for pam-config modification as he doesn't have time for it. 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