On 03/29/2016 07:41 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 29/03/16 11:32, Felix Miata wrote:
Simon Lees composed on 2016-03-29 08:48 (UTC-1030):
On a clean install I did last week I discovered enlightenment had no sound, this was due to the missing pulseaudio-module-x11. Currently the Gnome, Mate and KDE patterns all recommend pulseaudio-module-x11 (along with several other modules) which leads me to the question is it possible to have working audio on a desktop out of the box without the pulseaudio-module-x11 package on any desktop, if not I am proposing that we move the recommends on PulseAudio into the x11 or x11_opt package (I'm open to either) if some other desktops don't require this package for audio i'm happy to add the recommends to the enlightenment pattern.
This issue is currently being tracked in boo#972912 https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=972912
Over the past 5 months or so, I've recorded installed sound-related packages[1] on 58 13.1, 13.2, 42.1 and TW installations here. 58 have KDE3, TDE, KDE4 and/or K5 as DE. One additionally has Enlightenment, but since its menu was completely illegible, I didn't try to use it except to exit the session, so didn't test its sound or record its sound packages. On only a single one of the 58 is pulseaudio-module-x11 installed. It was not required to make system sounds, yast2 test sound, aplay test sound or Youtube sounds in Firefox on any of those that have working sound (most do). Most on which I never got sound to work were either 13.2, or TDE on 42.1[2]. Whether it is actually required to make sounds on the exception, TDE on 13.1, I have no idea.
Look, there is a person who is being paid by MicroFocus to be doing the job of being the person for QA for openSUSE.
Questions like the one you pose above should be directed at that QA person because they don't appear to be simple questions about sudden "bugs".
Come to think of it, why paying someone for being a "QA" person and also have a "bugzilla" where other non-paying people are solving problems which -- the way I see it -- should be foreseen and prevented by a QA person?
Well as the enlightenment maintainer its part of my job to find and fix these sorts of issues, having found the solution I raised it here to discuss if applying a similar fix to all DE's is an appropriate step given its already applied to most. ** Disclaimer, these days I also work for SUSE / Microfocus but in a role that’s completely unrelated to the enlightenment maintainership I do in a community capacity other then spending a small amount of work time on it. I spent 3+ years doing it in my spare time before that, partly because it was beneficial to me and partly as I saw it as a worthwhile cause to volunteer time to. -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adeliade Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B