On 28/01/15 22:18, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2015-01-28 07:29, Basil Chupin wrote:
So, Tumbleweed is really a continuation of 13.2 which was spawned from Factory, right? No.
Tw is now (not half a year ago) a copy of factory, made after factory passes some automated tests. So, in the cases where before you would have used factory, you have to use Tumbleweed now.
It is not based in 13.2 at all.
It was based on 13.1, some months back. Then the method changed with 13.2. Actually, Current Tumbleweed has the same name as the old one, but it is quite different.
Have you tried to follow what I said in my post to which you are replying?
My posts also raises 2 questions:
1) if Tumbleweed comes from Factory then why are there so many problems being reported re Tumbleweed when people try it? The Portal states, as you show above, that TW is updated after "......software has been integrated, stabilized and tested. ....." See for example the comments to the announcement that the snapshot 20150126 has just been released. Automated tests, not human based tests. When a new failure is found, someone has to design and implement a new automated test to catch it.
Oh, this is a new one. "Automated tests", eh? But doesn't EVERYTHING go thru "automated tests" before being made available in a repository? If what you say is true (only "automated tests") then the wording in the Tumbleweed Portal is goobly-dook and would not pass the 'truthfullness' test if it was a commercial on the TV.
But then why doesn't it have all the available repositories available to it for people to use? For example there are: Well, that's up to the people that create those repos.
Translation: It's someone else's fault - fine. But who is responsible for managing those "people who create those repos."?
download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Extra/openSUSE_Tumbleweed
download.opensuse.org/repsitories/games/openSUSE_Tumbleweed
but there is not mention of them: they don't appear in the list of repositories in YaST nor are they mentioned in the Tumbleweed Portal. Not all repos are listed everywhere for all distributions. And the structure changes without documentation update.
Sorry, but you are trying to defend the indefensible here. If 13.1, 13.2, and earlier, can have the repos shown in YaST then Tumbleweed should also have the repos applicable to it shown.
These are clearly shown in the list of repositories in download.opensuse.org/repositories yet are not included in TW's YaST. The list is a dynamic file downloaded from somewhere, I don't know the details. Someone could update it.
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