Il 26/03/23 09:14, Larry Len Rainey ha scritto:

Making leap a rolling is stupid as it would become Tumbleweed.

Most users could care less about being current and needing to update and rebooting. I have seen some OpenSUSE users do nothing until End of Life forces them to a new version.

Rolling requires that you update daily or risk being patched past the point of the system being stable.

As support for many users across America, I left Fedora when they became a rolling and went to Centos, when Walmart went SLES, I went to OpenSUSE and have not had any reason to switch to another distro. I do run other distos to test VirtualBox as it is the reason may folks use it.

I for one say NO to rolling Leap.


On 3/26/23 05:04, Emanuel Castelo via openSUSE Factory wrote:
So the issue is your old machine? 
I would suggest you dont TW, do 15.x without making 15.x rolling or you will be back to TW like issues.

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 25, 2023, at 20:47, Fritz Hudnut <non.space.1@gmail.com> wrote:

Folks:

Once again, when "we" in TW hit these "balloon upgrades" when
thousands of packages are dropped into zypper to maintain the system,
and those of us with older hardware (circa '12) run into time
consuming issues for our geriatric machines to be able to process them
. . . .

We get into "discussions" on the forum about what exactly does
"rolling" mean vs "new distribution release for total rebuild of the
system" . . . and during those interactions it came to me that perhaps
Leap 15.5 could be the "mule" for developing the more traditional
"rolling" platform, similar to Manjaro, where the basic system is
upgraded/maintained . . . generally a couple hundred packages every
other week or so . . . ???  Kernel and browser freshness is generally
all that an end user such as myself would need, to support his DE of
choice.

As of late the "protectors of TW" are raging about how "we need to
upgrade gcc completely to maintain parity with . . . newness"???  That
may indeed be the case, but, In kicking around with TW for roughly 10
years I can't recall a time on the forum when I was having issues,
where a guru would say, "You need to upgrade to gcc12, right now!!!!"
Or whatever gcc option that would be the next new option.

Leap 15.5 could provide the opportunity to continue using that
technology, but buttressed with "stability" for the basic system, and
just "roll in" kernel updates and so forth, "evolution" rather than
"totally revamping every package" as now seems to be the case with TW.

Thanks for the bandwidth.

IMHO, transforming Leap into a rolling distro should be a wrong approach for OpenSUSE, just because here we already have Tumbleweed,
which I use on daily bases with much enjoyment and, on contrary to what you think, I believe it's not stupid at all!

But the world is nice also because "your mileage may vary".
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Marco Calistri
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