Michal Kubecek wrote:
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 07:15:21PM +0100, Rüdiger Meier wrote:
Why don't we use SLE as is?
Actually, we do - most of it. The problem is SLE provides much fewer packages than openSUSE so that taking SLE as is wouldn't satisfy too many openSUSE users. The number of packages that exist in both but openSUSE has newer version is relatively small (higher than I would like, though).
We need written rules. IMO It should be really really really difficult for a package maintainer to update his package in Leap.
IMHO one of the big problems of today's distribution is that many people stopped distinguishing between updates and upgrades; popularity of so-called "rolling updates" distributions - which are in fact also "rolling upgrades" (which fans of the concept keep forgetting to mention) - is one of the reasons, IMHO.
Note the SLE also upgrades packages. The ~1000 package updates in SP2 weren't minor at all. So following those while blocking upgrades in community packages would be unfair. Upgrades are not bad in general, we just need to be confident that they are reasonably safe. IOW testing, testing, testing...
I don't agree that _updating_ a package in Leap should be any more difficult than it used to be in pre-Leap era. On the other hand, _upgrading_ a package between point releases (or even within one) should be IMHO always carefully thought of and well and clearly reasoned (and the reason documented).
For packages that are considered important you usually will find questions and discussions either in the comment's request or bugzilla.
The same should IMHO apply to using newer versions of packages existing in SLE 12 SPx for Leap 42.x - and I'm not really convinced this was always the case.
You are of course welcome to help with the assessment in the leap-reviewers queue: $ osc review list -G leap-reviewers Anyone can leave comments in requests and I'll take them into consideration. cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ V_/_ http://www.suse.com/ SUSE Linux GmbH, GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org