Michal Kubecek wrote:
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 07:15:21PM +0100, Rüdiger
Why don't we use SLE as is?
Actually, we do - most of it. The problem is SLE provides much fewer
packages than openSUSE so that taking SLE as is wouldn't satisfy too
many openSUSE users. The number of packages that exist in both but
openSUSE has newer version is relatively small (higher than I would
We need written rules. IMO It should be really
difficult for a package maintainer to update his package in Leap.
IMHO one of the big problems of today's distribution is that many people
stopped distinguishing between updates and upgrades; popularity of
so-called "rolling updates" distributions - which are in fact also
"rolling upgrades" (which fans of the concept keep forgetting to
mention) - is one of the reasons, IMHO.
Note the SLE also upgrades packages. The ~1000 package updates in SP2
weren't minor at all. So following those while blocking upgrades in
community packages would be unfair.
Upgrades are not bad in general, we just need to be confident that
they are reasonably safe. IOW testing, testing, testing...
I don't agree that _updating_ a package in Leap
should be any more
difficult than it used to be in pre-Leap era. On the other hand,
_upgrading_ a package between point releases (or even within one) should
be IMHO always carefully thought of and well and clearly reasoned (and
the reason documented).
For packages that are considered important you usually will find
questions and discussions either in the comment's request or
The same should IMHO apply to using newer versions of
in SLE 12 SPx for Leap 42.x - and I'm not really convinced this was
always the case.
You are of course welcome to help with the assessment in the
$ osc review list -G leap-reviewers
Anyone can leave comments in requests and I'll take them into
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