On Monday, 24 September 2018 11:41 Stefan Seyfried wrote:
(OT) We can discuss this maybe at a future conference, for me (and some others I know), not using --no-r just makes regular updates unbearable. Something in between "Requires" and Recommends", that is "Requires" for zypper, but only recommends for RPM would be best, so that "Stuff you really should have to make it work" could be required harder than just recommends (evince-plugin-{ps,pdf}document comes to my mind), but still be uninstalled for some really minimal systems. IMHO too many package just recommend everything that could eventually be useful for someone, and if you always patch / dup with "--recommends", then the system inevitably grows every time by a significant amount. So something between "black" and "white" would be useful, granted, but we don't have that yet.
We have "Suggests", though, which is weaker than "Recommends". These are not installed by default even with the distribution default setting (which I always change right after each openSUSE installation). So we might want to keep only "reasonable" Recommends and demote the "you might also want" ones to Suggests. But that would be a lot of work and I'm afraid that packagers' view on what is worth to be marked as Recommends may be often more eager than what users would like. Michal Kubeček -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org