Did read the notes now, could not attend live as its foss-north Online 2022 this week: https://foss-north.se/2022/ https://foss-north.se/ and attending the local Linux conference in Gothenburg but Online for the third year in a row hopefully it will be in person again in 2023
On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 12:23 PM Lubos Kocman firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
All meeting minutes can be found here: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-meeting Meeting is hosted here https://meet.opensuse.org/ReleaseEngineeringMeeting
## Attendees DocB, ddemaio, lkocman, DimStar, Dirk, maxlin, Maurizio (m4u)
Heads up !!! Update on SLE Next on project@
TODAY (April 20th) at 15:00 is the code submission deadline for Leap 15.4 RC. Only bugfixes afterwards. https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Roadmap What about the backlog queue? We have to process all that arrived until ~15:00, we can't easily have different deadline than SLES 15 SP4 Public RC (also today).
Ask from QA: https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/109223 Update description of job groups with insufficient description
Leap 15.5 - we have to aim for very early planning announced Focusing on Leap Micro to SLE Micro migration in spare time
- Having a discussion about existing migrated systems from CentOS 7 to
Leap 15.X and how does Leap 15.5 being the last release and transition to ALP fits in. Users seem to be worried.
We have several possible ways: provide SP6/SP7 updates to Leap, some nice offer to SLES migration (probably not an option for most), easy migration to ALP ... let's see what's possible and what not.
- Traditional Leap user, and their journey after 2023.
These are two scenarios that I'd like to have active discussion on ^
## openSUSE Tumbleweed
WSL/Tumbleweeed - openQA somehow stopped working 9 months ago https://openqa.opensuse.org/group_overview/68 do we know why? This has been asked by Jose (Cloud/WSL QA)
openSUSE:Factory build fail stats: 177 failed, 11 unresolvable (last week: 197/17) https://tinyurl.com/ysy4nnnz
- Easter-weekend: Tumbleweed was rolling, but with very few inputs (the
number of SRs was lower and could thus still be handled)
- Kernel 5.17.2
- Moved from LLVM13 to LLVM14
## Richard (Kubic/TW MicroOS)
Podman 4.0.x is in Factory Pods in Podman 4.0.x are currently broken, due to catatonit 0.1.7 not being in Factory. It's on the way, meanwhile rolling back is a valid workaround openQA tests for Pods in Podman is written, reviewed, just being held back until catatonit 0.1.7 lands in Factory Experimenting with MicroOS Desktop (GNOME) SelfInstalling images. If experiments go well, next step will be to use TIU for OS updates. Ultimately may obsolete the current YaST-based installation method for MicroOS. lkocman: should I file inclusion requests for Leap/SLE Micro? Richard: no plan to have it there as of now. Working on various interesting MicroOS research tracks: - kiwi-less/container first VM image building Status: POC - nerdctl support in toolbox Status: Broken prototype - buildkit and its limit as a container builder - TW-to-MicroOS conversion - curl-minimal and making it default (like Fedora) Status: Investigating - Re-arranging Factory so products like MicroOS can build with different PrjConf than Tumbleweed - MicroOS Desktop using TIU instead of transactional-update (ie. remove all individual rpm package management) (research not sure if it's worth updating docs yet) Please ping email@example.com if you are interested/have opinions on any of the above, feedback/thoughts/existing knowledge is welcome.
- Deleted duplicated SLE package rebuilt in Backports project, there is
exceptions of multibuild package, because some specific build flavor has enabled on openSUSE only
- Look into rpmlint issue, while debugging I found that it seem to we
did introduce entry to DBUSServices.WhiteList in the wrong format therefore whitelisting doesn't work for kpmcore and others, bsc#1198521
- Tweaked openqa settings for disabling RNG device on upgrade tests for
- Build fail stats in Leap 15.4: 42 build fails, 0 unresolvables
lkocman: I'll open individual bugs for remaining build failures.
Max: looking into pending submissions on Staging lkocman: I'll re-check status of the SLE submissions prior the RC deadline.
Santiago mentioned that he'll have more free cycles for Leap/openQA this week. I'll reach out to him regarding focus on the migration scenarios.
## Guillaume - Arm
Tumbleweed: * Factory:ARM recovered from GCC12 build failure. A new snapshot should go to openQA later today or tomorrow. * Upcoming GCC 12 tested for aarch64:
Leap 15.4: * aarch64: * Go compiler has been updated in SLE. https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1183043 * armv7: * Enlightenment package still fails in rpmlint check (missing whitelist?): https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1194047 lkocman: will reach out to simotek and Wolfgang * scc product class looks wrong (Marina/Marcus) (for all non-intel arches). x86_64 has OPENSUSE-BETA while for the others the class is SLES-ARM64-BETA, SLES-PPC-BETA, SLES-Z-BETA. https://sd.suse.com/servicedesk/customer/portal/1/SD-82355 (Internal, Ticket with SCC team, team lead is aware of the request). Request is now resolved. (lkcoman: Correction trello shows me that 2/4 items are still pending).
lkocman to check if we could remove the firefox tests from the 42.X/15.0 upgrade test suite. It doesn't seem to happen outside of that (same for TW). lkocman will try to look into this
## Sarah - s390x
- Is rolling
openSUSE Leap Beta:
no issues at the moment
fakeroot updated, that it is buildable for s390x again
arpack-ng requires 12GB of memory for successful builds (constraints
lkocman: slightly related topic, should we perhaps re-consider recommended memory amount in Release Notes? I think we still recommend something like 2G minimal / 4G or 8G optimal.
- KDE for s390x adopted
- Temporary suspension of TSP until we can find a payment solution
- Had meeting with accounts payable (need other experts on call)
- Another meeting schedule for beginning of next week
- 108 registrations, 63 submissions, 39 hours
- Approving talks
- Have mock schedule and feedback from people on talk times
- Catering offer recieved (hope to approve it this week)
- Meeting today at Z-Bau
lkocman: I'd really like to see a panel discussion with our ALP steering comittee on the conference (similar to Fedora in the past).
- OSCAL oSC22
- CfP goes until April 26
- LAS talk next week about Leap Micro
- GSoC is May 12 deadline
Git Hub maintainer day/week? mentioned on the #oscc
- switched obs-arm-11 worker to aio=io_uring away from aio=threads
which appears to reduce I/O cost (bsc#1197746)
- fixed file(1) speedup regression
- Still to work rust 1.59 / ghc issues on armv6 and armv7: all have the
same root cause, use of SWP/SWPB instructions which is imperfectly emulated by the aarch64 host kernel. works fine with armv6/v7 kernel.
In backlog: https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issue/17
## Wolfgang (Package Hub), Scott Bahling
## Maintenance team (Marina or Marcus, Maurizio (m4u))
- Marcus: 15.4 is set up channel wise, updates will go in testing
occasionaly, if you need more ping me, no openqa setup yet lkocman: could you please help me with cleanup of maintenance tasks in https://progress.opensuse.org/projects/opensuse-leap-15-4/issues/gantt
- Marcus: 15.3 openQA is ok again.
lkocman: (still pending) will open a release notes entry for a change Security Advisory identification TODO Marcus: could you give me example of old and new values?
- Marina and Maurizio: SLE-PackageHub overlaps
(https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-process/issues/71) work in progress following the initial list of overlapping packages (https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/106610#note-3). More incidents are under QA. Work is going on and under control (and tracked internally as jsc#MSC-303). Already released: (AH PERFECT!) SUSE:Maintenance:22929:265929 (babl libbabl-0_1-0 typelib-1_0-Babl-0_1) SUSE:Maintenance:23000:266006 (MozillaThunderbird enigmail) SUSE:Maintenance:23009:266004 (freerdp freerdp-devel freerdp-proxy libfreerdp2 libgsm) -> libgsm1 was missing in PH making freerdp not installable SUSE:Maintenance:22928:266007 (argyllcms csync libcsync0 libcsync- plugin-sftp libcsync-plugin-smb Max alrady removed packages from Backports Maurizio: Most packages from the list for 15-SP3 on the ticket are now staged, waiting to be sent for QA testing. Update on status to come as soon as package updates are released but it will likely take time.
Leap Micro 5.2 - Maintenance setup should be rather small, as we do override only branding. https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/openSUSE:Leap:Micro:5.2
Lubos to open a progres-o-o ticket for the maintenance update. Marcus would also prefer as small overhead as possible. Adrian: we could have a policy that if there is an updated for Micro it should go only to the official code-stream even if the package didn't exist there yet.
Raised by Marcus: removal of SUSEConnect in favor of suseconnect-ng lkocman: the obsoletes are set correctly, none of packages is installed by default. And installation of suseconnect-ng currently removes SUSEConnect. Documentation was updated accordingly. In my opinion this is already good enough. https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:How_to_migrate_to_SLE
## Adrian - OBS
feedback loop on mirrored submissions doesn't workstation. Lubos wills end an email with an example to Marco and Adrian. (Sent last week)