Hi, (cc'ing Takashi, who does not yet know about my plans even though we are co-maintaining X11:xfce ;-) Now that the XFCE stuff in Factory is somewhat reasonably current, I'd like to propose a change in the default setup. I'd like to switch to the whiskermenu panel plugin (https://gottcode.org/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin/) as a default start menu. Existing setups will not be changed, just the default for new users. The way this would be achieved would be a change in xfce4-branding-openSUSE package (actually xfce4-panel-branding-openSUSE) to the panel config, and that package then would get a "Requires: xfce4-panel-plugin-whiskermenu". This requires would lead to ~500kB wasted space for people who do not want to use whiskermenu, but that's it, it won't do no harm otherwise. If there are no objections, then I'd submit this soon (first to X11:xfce, then to Factory). And that brings me to the second point: I'm trying to bring the XFCE Live CDs back. OK, the ISO's are too big for CDs, but work well as DVD or hybridpersistent USB stick. If you want to try them out *now*, grab them from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/seife:/xfce/images/iso/ If there are no serious issues reported, I'd submit them to X11:xfce (and then announce the new location). There are 4 images available: XFCE-Leap-42.3-latest => XFCE from X11:xfce XFCE-Leap-42.3-stable => XFCE as shipped in Leap 42.3 XFCE-Tumbleweed-latest => XFCE from X11:xfce XFCE-Tumbleweed-stable => XFCE as shipped in Tumbleweed The latter two should be pretty identical right now, but once I submit the above whiskermenu change to X11:xfce the Tumbleweed-latest variant will get the newer look. Opinions? Have a lot of fun... seife (Once I get around the kiwi kinks, I'll also try to resurrect the XFCE based openSUSE Rescue sytem image) -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org