You can install generic desktop and select MATE desktop - No gnome - no KDE much more stable than either and looks like Vista or XP desktop.

That is what I do. Also I use ext4  rather than brtfs. I just use 3 partitions - 300MB for /boot/efi, 8gb for swap and the rest for / (root). No fuss no mess.

My 2 cents - others will disagree.

On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 13:05:10 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

The updates exist.

KDE also exists, but I haven't installed it because I DON'T WANT TO.

If you want something similar to Leap, and it's not available, then you 
will either need to look for another distro that gives you what you want, 
or you will have to decide to take on maintaining what you want.

I ran into a problem with GNOME 45 on Tumbleweed (I opened a bug on it), 
but because of that breaking issue for me, I reverted and haven't 
updated.  Yep, there are 469 updates queued right now, and I'm blocked 
from applying them because the update to GNOME 45 renders my system 
unusable.  So, I have chosen to not update.

The idea that updates exist = bad is just ridiculous.