Dne 08. 04. 21 v 22:56 Christian Boltz napsal(a):
My method for vim plugins is "download the plugin once, and only look at it again if/when it breaks" (hey, I'm lazy ;-) which means some of my plugins are quite old. I just had a look - several of them are from 2004, and I have a surprisingly low number of files in ~/.vim with a 201x or 202x date.
OK, I don’t know how to reply to this politely. “I behave [unwisely] and openSUSE doesn’t pretend to do something about it.” There seem to be two alternatives: * tell you to behave [wisely] (to say it nicely) and let you live with consequences of your actions, * pretend that we do something for you even though we don’t (see https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:Factory/vim-plugins ) I strongly vote for removing this package from Factory and not lying to our users that we support them, when we don’t. Apparently, most users already gave up on our non-packaging and they use standard vim tools.
For bugs I didn't even notice, yes. But then, if I didn't notice the breakage, I probably don't need a quick fix ;-)
Point of the package updates is that you are continually getting fixes for all bugs collected by all users of the software. With our vim-plugins you don’t.
But let me ask the other way round: Does any of the RPMs cause problems or conflicts with your way of managing vim plugins? If not, I still think packaging them is a good idea to make it easier for whoever prefers the easy way ;-)
Just we are not honest with our users, when we pretend (by providing the packages) to support when we actually don't do anything. And the answer is not “so, just update vim-plugins package”, because then we get to my previous analysis, why our packaging is The Wrong Thing™ to do. Best, Matěj -- https://matej.ceplovi.cz/blog/, Jabber: mcepl@ceplovi.cz GPG Finger: 3C76 A027 CA45 AD70 98B5 BC1D 7920 5802 880B C9D8 According to the Franciscan priest Richard Rohr, spirituality is not for people who are trying to avoid hell; it is for people who have been through hell. In many ways, spirituality is about what we do with our pain. And the truth is, if we don't transform it, we will transmit it. -- Al Gustafson