Adding my 2 cents... My opinion on stable means it doesn't break. Tumbleweed is incredibly stable in my opinion, it has never broken for me, I update daily, usually. Arch is not stable, it breaks for me therefore isn't stable. I love the idea of a slow roll (though I'm confused how it will be implemented, I have many questions that so far aren't being answered, albeit I haven't actually asked anyone either, yet).... I will continue to use tumbleweed as long as tumbleweed continues to be the best (b)leading edge and supremely stable system it is today. The slowroll option sounds perfect for my 78 year old mother who doesn't want to update often, and the thought of dist-upgrading her system given the oft chance it breaks worries her. Currently on kubuntu LTS, but LTS's have been known to break during release upgrades. I update her computer bout once a months, slowroll would be perfect and I'd never have to worry about the pain in the butt big release upgrade again. I think it would also be perfect for sweeties business that needs financial software (kmymoney and many spreadsheets mostly) and really needs to not ever break. I like the name Fusion because it fuses (sort of) leap and tumbleweed together. On Monday, September 25, 2023 3:54:07 PM EDT Robert Kaiser wrote:
There are different definitions of "stable" at play here.
Crashes are one thing, but what people mean in "unstable" here probably is about dependencies and pre-compiled binaries and scripts etc. breaking because of software version changes, or even just usage of some software changing and therefore breaking habits or documentation.
KaiRo
On 9/25/23 21:40, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> [09-25-23 15:18]:
On 2023-09-25 20:07, Paul Lipps via openSUSE Factory wrote:
This would be a great opportunity to consolidate folks on Tumbleweed. If you don’t like the frequency of updates, then simply don’t update as often.
No, that is not a solution. There are still many updates, that is the definition of "Tumbleweed is not stable". Closing your eyes to them does not stop them.
tumbleweed is stable, ie: doesn't constantly crash when being used. it doesn't even infrequently crash, I cannot recall a "crash" in the last year or more.
nothing becomes not stable just because there are updates available. open your eyes and see the light.
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