On Tuesday 29 Dec 2009 19:08:16 Bryen M Yunashko wrote:
On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 18:50 +0000, Peter Nikolic wrote:
But there is nothing to replace it , This security thing is becoming a bit of a nonsense lets face it we are talking about Home systems not top security commercial or government systems here they got SLED and SLES if they are running 11.2 distro then thats their problem .
I would argue against that kind of thinking. Security isn't just about hacks into your server. It's also about vulnerabilities of the desktop. And much of the vulnerability exploits that occur in this world are on home systems. Specifically, Windows home systems that cripple the rest of the world. To forgo such thinking would be to re-introduce home system vulnerability to Linux/openSUSE systems that we've been good at avoiding all along.
Well we will have to agree to disagree on that one
I would also argue that not all openSUSE installations are home systems. I use a number of openSUSE boxes in business/commercial situations as well. So, we shouldn't limit our thinking of who uses openSUSE. Although, I will grant that the majority of users are likely home users.
When there is a decent working replacement for XMMS then all well and good but so far the choices just suck .
Sometimes, we seem to forget we're in an open source world. If XMMS is a must have, then we have the opportunity to adopt it, fix it, rally support around it to get others to work with it and rebuild the ecosystem around XMMS that seems to have disintegrated. We all say "We gotta <insert what you will>...." but no one ever seems to step up to the plate to make it happen.
Pete .
If XMMS is truly the way to go, then let's roll up our sleeves and make it truly a viable option complete with the fixes it needs that reflect the quality and security considerations that make openSUSE known.
Now that is what i love to see happen but i have tried and tried so many times to get my head round C and C++ with no luck else i would dive right in and sort it out my coding days seem to have faded out . As for the suggestion of Qmmp that was mentioned it is going to need a bit of massaging to get it to install the only ones i can find are for 11.1 We will see once again if i can get something to stick in this stubborn brain and see if i can sort that out for 11.2 . Pete . -- Powered by openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 2 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.30-rc6-git3-4- default KDE: 4.2.86 (KDE 4.2.86 (KDE 4.3 >= 20090514)) "release 1" 19:26 up 3 days 22:26, 2 users, load average: 0.76, 0.80, 0.68