I've just installed kde 2.2 on my machine. It is a fantastic piece of work - I think it's the most impressive thing I've yet seen on the platform. Things start faster, look better, do more... I had thought that it might be a bit tricky converting some windows users to the Linux desktop on the grounds of differences in look and feel. No longer a problem - you can make it look and feel the same, even to the extent of silly toys such as fading menus etc. Anyway - now to the interesting bit. Since startup times were faster, I installed it on the 32Mb machine just to see what happened. Two important things happened: 1. KDE now displays a pulsating icon on the pointer by way of an hourglass as an application starts up so the user is less likely to try and start the application again. 2. In spite of some serious disc thrashing, KWord starts in 10 seconds :) I'll do some investigation as to whether I can save any memory by discarding some unnecessary frills and toys, and report back with news of whether or not the machine is useable under KDE. I've just experimented with getting the startkde script to startup icewm (thanks for the suggestion Mike). I tried this yesterday with an older KDE with no effect, however today with KDE 2.2, I can get KWord to startup under icewm in 15 seconds - a factor of 3 speed improvement. Cheers -- Phil Driscoll
On Thursday 16 August 2001 1:27 pm, Phil Driscoll wrote:
I've just installed kde 2.2 on my machine. It is a fantastic piece of work - I think it's the most impressive thing I've yet seen on the platform. Things start faster, look better, do more...
I had thought that it might be a bit tricky converting some windows users to the Linux desktop on the grounds of differences in look and feel. No longer a problem - you can make it look and feel the same, even to the extent of silly toys such as fading menus etc.
Anyway - now to the interesting bit. Since startup times were faster, I installed it on the 32Mb machine just to see what happened.
Two important things happened:
1. KDE now displays a pulsating icon on the pointer by way of an hourglass as an application starts up so the user is less likely to try and start the application again.
2. In spite of some serious disc thrashing, KWord starts in 10 seconds :)
I'll do some investigation as to whether I can save any memory by discarding some unnecessary frills and toys, and report back with news of whether or not the machine is useable under KDE. I've just experimented with getting the startkde script to startup icewm (thanks for the suggestion Mike). I tried this yesterday with an older KDE with no effect, however today with KDE 2.2, I can get KWord to startup under icewm in 15 seconds - a factor of 3 speed improvement.
I have just been trying Kword out on 2.1.2 and found a few problems. Quite a lot of crashes and I can't seem to cut and paste Killustrator drawings to it. Is this me or isn't this implemented in my version? I do like the look of Kword and if they can transfer the Word filters from StarOffice to it, it could be a better bet. I'll instal 2.2 and see how it goes. regards, Ian
On Friday 17 August 2001 1:35 pm, you wrote:
I have just been trying Kword out on 2.1.2 and found a few problems. Quite a lot of crashes and I can't seem to cut and paste Killustrator drawings to it. Is this me or isn't this implemented in my version? I do like the look of Kword and if they can transfer the Word filters from StarOffice to it, it could be a better bet. I'll instal 2.2 and see how it goes.
I've been playing with kword, although not using it in anger. I haven't managed to make it go wrong, however fighting the bizarre killustrator/kontour user interface doesn't figure in my 'want to do' list so I can't comment on that :) -- Phil Driscoll
Hi Phil, When we were talking about mail clients for small machines earlier, I mentioned that kmail was not very good if you have large emails or large volumes of smaller emails. I got a response from one of the KDE developers that said kmail with KDE2.2 has been vastly improved for the lots of small messages senerio. Any chance you could check that out for me and let me know what you think. I'm hoping to have a go at putting KDE2.2 on my box next week; I'll let you know how I get on. On a side note, I've noticed that you seam to want to stay away from a LTSP style setup. Is this through personal experience, or just personal preference? Have you evaluated/tested this sort of setup? The reason I'm asking is that I'm going to ask here if I can pilot a LTSP/WINE/Win32 APP scheme and I was wondering if anyone had had a go at this. Gary On Thursday 16 August 2001 6:27 pm, Phil Driscoll wrote:
I've just installed kde 2.2 on my machine. It is a fantastic piece of work - I think it's the most impressive thing I've yet seen on the platform. Things start faster, look better, do more...
I had thought that it might be a bit tricky converting some windows users to the Linux desktop on the grounds of differences in look and feel. No longer a problem - you can make it look and feel the same, even to the extent of silly toys such as fading menus etc.
Anyway - now to the interesting bit. Since startup times were faster, I installed it on the 32Mb machine just to see what happened.
Two important things happened:
1. KDE now displays a pulsating icon on the pointer by way of an hourglass as an application starts up so the user is less likely to try and start the application again.
2. In spite of some serious disc thrashing, KWord starts in 10 seconds :)
I'll do some investigation as to whether I can save any memory by discarding some unnecessary frills and toys, and report back with news of whether or not the machine is useable under KDE. I've just experimented with getting the startkde script to startup icewm (thanks for the suggestion Mike). I tried this yesterday with an older KDE with no effect, however today with KDE 2.2, I can get KWord to startup under icewm in 15 seconds - a factor of 3 speed improvement.
Cheers
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On Friday 17 August 2001 9:45 am, Gary Stainburn wrote:
Hi Phil,
When we were talking about mail clients for small machines earlier, I mentioned that kmail was not very good if you have large emails or large volumes of smaller emails. I got a response from one of the KDE developers that said kmail with KDE2.2 has been vastly improved for the lots of small messages senerio. Any chance you could check that out for me and let me know what you think.
I have been using kmail as my email client for the last few months and even prior to upgrading yesterday to the 1.3 version, I found it to be very good. I get over 300 emails a day and currently kmail is holding over 27,000 email messages. The only problem I have with it is it sometimes hangs when moving the cursor around in the To: and Cc: fields - but it has never lost any data - if I kill it and restart it, it starts up exactly where if left off before the hang.
On a side note, I've noticed that you seam to want to stay away from a LTSP style setup. Is this through personal experience, or just personal preference? Have you evaluated/tested this sort of setup?
I have nothing against it at all - it's just that on the current project, the school has zero money to buy any servers and many of the machines have to be used away from the network.
The reason I'm asking is that I'm going to ask here if I can pilot a LTSP/WINE/Win32 APP scheme and I was wondering if anyone had had a go at this.
I'm sure there are several on the list who are using LTSP. Cheers -- Phil Driscoll
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Gary Stainburn
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Ian Lynch
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Phil Driscoll