Thank you Lars and Jigish for the information. I'll do a rebuild as suggested. Although I'm hesitant to change the wiki. Following is information and thoughts, no reply is necessary. (After exploring Li-f-e I may find my thoughts were not needed.) We are a small village library using open source when possible. Some other Ohio libraries do also. The State Library is even testing Evergreen for state wide use. Using Novell for years made openSUSE an obvious choice. openSUSE (as a PAC - Public Access Catalog) and EDU fits in our library patron environment quite well, when locked down. A semi-major library pushes Edubuntu, giving classes, CD's, PC's etc. to drum up use. I tout openSUSE on the OPLIN list server as an option but haven't felt comfortable to push EDU. openSUSE and the single user EDU are polished, easily installed, easily used by Windows oriented people. Or at least it seems easy to adjust/train them. But the EDU server/thin client version seems to require more setup involvement than many libraries can provide. For most libraries our size, or smaller, everything should be plug and play. Usually, no IT person is available. I think, to reach this market, the server installation needs to be extremely simple for non-technical people. Possibly a distribution to allow something like this: (an over-simplification) Requirement Description: 1 PC ~ x ghz, 2 NIC's, x Memory plus y more per user, xgb HD, etc. 1 to x PC's ~ x ghz, 1 NIC, x Memory, no HD, headphone, etc 1 switch, misc cables, etc. Instructions: Connect internet cable to NIC 1 Install s/w on main pc Boot, log on, do updates Run program Z to create Users & password, select icons for desktop, modify the K Menu to limit items shown EX: we have 5 users, 35 desktop icons and only Edutainment, Games and Multimedia on the K Menu Program Z should do it all. Or have a few individual programs with very simple steps to follow. Connect other PC's to the switch and the switch to NIC 2 Boot them and log on Thanks again, Bob R. W. (Bob) Neeper Community Library community.lib.oh.us 44 Burrer Dr. Sunbury, Oh 43074 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-edu+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-edu+help@opensuse.org