RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Network migration starting with squid.. help
--- Alan Loughlin
Is dansguardian any good?
"Good" in what terms? Good for the dog? The cat? You'll have to specify what you mean by "good". It's good in that DG does work. Coupled with squid, and squidguard, you can do some very powerful things with it, if you have the expertese to do so. CensorNet has attempted to make life easier, by providing a set of useful tools to do just this, and if you are thinking of using DG in an educational environment, longterm, this is where you should be looking to start off with. Everything you've asked for so far, would suggest to me that you're after CensorNet [1]. -- Thomas Adam [1] No, I am not affiliated with them, nor have I ever worked for them. :) "The Linux Weekend Mechanic" -- http://linuxgazette.net "TAG Editor" -- http://linuxgazette.net "<shrug> We'll just save up your sins, Thomas, and punish you for all of them at once when you get better. The experience will probably kill you. :)" -- Benjamin A. Okopnik (Linux Gazette Technical Editor) ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com
"Good" in what terms? Good for the dog? The cat? You'll have to specify what you mean >by "good".
How much further can I break one word down? By saying good, it means everyone's own interpretation of there word coupled with their own experience.
Oh? You'd have to be more specific as to which parts are constantly requiring authentication. I'm sure it can be fixed.
"Lock down"? What do you mean by that? Hmm, let's see. There's no such
Internet explorer constantly prompts a logon box everytime you open it. If you look at censornet forums and try it out you'll see. Censornet/Adelix have stated they have no current release date for this to be fixed. Due to the need IE has for persistent connections I think. thing as "the"
desktop environment -- there's a whole plethora [1] of them.
Again, open to interpretation, im not asking for an English or IT lesson, I said it in that manner to get other peoples opinions based on their experience and preferences. If someone uses KDE, that’s their desktop environment so by saying "the" it personalises the sentence to the reader. Your again trying to pick on the way I have said something rather than respond in a informative way. How does these comments like this help me? They don’t.
Since we don't know which distro nor which desktop manager you'll be using, specific information will be sketchy at best.
My main question is what Linux distro shall I go for and what caching and filtering solution will do what isa and surfcontrol do?
This was my main question, im asking for distro opinions based on everyone's personal experience, I don't know what distro to choose, that’s one reason why im posting. I appreciate that your response didn't just include snidey comments, but I will not accept people speaking to me in this way. Thank you for everyone else's replies. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.8 - Release Date: 10/05/2005
Hi Alan,
I appreciate that your response didn't just include snidey comments, but I will not accept people speaking to me in this way.
Chill out, if you write to a (semi) public list you'll have to accept that not everyone has your own high standards of etiquette, we all know that Thomas resides a good way up his own dark orifice; for a giveaway just look at his footer :-) ( sorry Thomas, but you know it's true :) We've all experienced his pen, but he does have a great deal of experience and knowledge. He's not going to change, so just read around it and suck out the good bits! :-) Later Adrian PS very busy so just lurking for a while - Linuxgirlie, I'll be in contact soon, honest!
Chill out, if you write to a (semi) public list you'll have to accept that not everyone has your own high standards of etiquette, we all know that Thomas resides a good way up his own dark orifice; for a giveaway just look at his footer :-) ( sorry Thomas, but you know it's true :) We've all experienced his pen, but he does have a great deal of experience and knowledge. He's not going to change, so just read around it and suck out the good bits! :-)
Fair enough. I know I do have high standards. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.8 - Release Date: 10/05/2005
Thomas Adam wrote:
CensorNet has attempted to make life easier, by providing a set of useful tools to do just this, and if you are thinking of using DG in an educational environment, longterm, this is where you should be looking to start off with. Everything you've asked for so far, would suggest to me that you're after CensorNet [1].
Plus one there from me too. Tony
Alan Loughlin wrote:
Internet explorer constantly prompts a logon box everytime you open it. If you look at censornet forums and try it out you'll see. Censornet/Adelix have stated they have no current release date for this to be fixed. Due to the need IE has for persistent connections I think.
Absolutely. IE can't pass session data from one instance to another. So if you open up one IE window and authenticate against CensorNet (and indeed Squid) and then open up another, the data has to be entered again. This is, if anything, a bug in IE, not Dan's Guardian / Squid / CensorNet. It'd be down to MS to fix that. The work around is to use NTLM authentication which, as you say, is not currently available in CensorNet. This would transparently use the authentication detailed entered by the user at logon to authenticate against the proxy server. So IE still needs that authentication to happen for each session, it's just that it happens transparently. There isn't a schedule for inclusion of the NTLM auth feature, mainly due to Adelix being really busy at the moment. The estimated costs are about £3k to integrate the feature including the necessary configuration changes and reprogramming the web interface / set up program if you wanted to think about comissioning the work from them.* HTH, Tony * No, I don't work for Adelix either. But I do use CensorNet.
Ok, I like have dansguardian with squid, as its a dual layer and each has there own little bits and pieces that are good. For example squid has time banning, so instead of banning just all games sites you just restrict them to break, lunch, before and after school...well you do if your nice like me ;) We use squid for the authetcation. But am not sure what you mean about keep re-typing passwords as we have to also only if we shut firefox down. Its a safety thing, you wouldn't want someone to go to a computer which has someone logged in and just be able to get straight onto the internet as its remembered that persons password!! Apart from that I find it does the job, and I haven't had any complaints so I find its fine!! Jo ps. Adrian, I thought you had fallen in a well or something or even worse....gone over to the dark side......
participants (5)
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adrian.wells
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Alan Loughlin
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linuxgirlie
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Thomas Adam
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Tony Whitmore