July 2008 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-edu] Developers, and not only, news
by Andrea Florio 20 Jul '08

20 Jul '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi to everybody ;-) This mail want to make the point on some important things 1st) packaging stuffs... added package KRADVIEW as wishlist requesting: http://en.opensuse.org/Wishlist_Education#K (package succesfull build on any suse_version) Avogadro, because of libqt4 too old it doesn't build on opensuse 10.3 the latest version, due to "wipe binaries" old 0.8.0 packages was deleted, so the package was unavailable on OBS Repository. Fixed with a workaround: %if %suse_version <= 1030 Version: 0.8.0 %else Version: 0.8.1 %endif so Avogadro-0.8.0 is now available on suse 10.3 and Avogadro 0.8.1 is available for suse 11.0 and factory 2nd) tools stuffs I commited a fantastic tool created bye Yaloki (Pascal Bleser) to help us on "BuildRequires" detecting. the tool is available on svn repository here: packages/opensuse-education-tools/trunk/opensuse-education-tools/opensuse-education-tools-1.0 a quick tutorial is instead available here: http://www.crismonblog.org/varie/la-potenza-di-ldd-per-trovare-i-buildrequi… blog is in italian, but you could easly translate with the translation tool available on the right of pages (under Feeds) That's all (for now ;-) ) Cheers Andrea Florio -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiDXkoACgkQyCZT87TFPujKtwCfUyaJX/kqTLEI/oHx9ulz+/MJ wIoAoKVDDKuw5eiRcD/+XQcA484IzyT2 =6jRi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-edu+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-edu+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-edu] Suse in the class room
by Jpd 16 Jul '08

16 Jul '08

One problem I see is that how do you manage a room full of suse boxes? Users management are pretty sorted through AD support. Patching through auto update seemed ok. But how do you install software to rooms of pcs with out login into each one? How do you do things like group polices for access to applications? Things like managing the start menu etc. For mac there the xserver which does all this, and for windows you can get apps. What is there for Linux? Sun has some thing for it's sun rays and java desktop. But were using suse with the edu software. Surely some one else must have run into this problem? Or have you all got armies of support staff? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-edu+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-edu+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-edu] Developer news
by Lars Vogdt 15 Jul '08

15 Jul '08

Hi = Build Service = Just FYI: Today I found out, that SLE-10-SP2 is already synced into the buildservice ;-) => So I've added SLE-10-SP2 as Build Repository for Education:desktop and Education:server. I think some packages that fail in the SP1 repository should build now in SP2. But as SP1 is still maintained, I leave the current SLE-10 repository as it is. Additional changes in the 11.0 repository. Found out, that python-visual didn't build because of a bug in the original boost package. So I've enabled the 11.0-Update repository and now python-visual builds fine :-) As result, most of the packages are triggered for rebuild on 11.0 and SLE-10-SP2 now - which should not be a problem. But as SLE-10-SP2 is a "new" repository, all RPMs that are disabled for SLE-10 (SP1) will fail in this repository as they are not disabled. So I'm asking if somebody has enough time to check the SLE-10-SP2 failures against the SLE-10 repository and disable/enable the packages acording to the SLE-10 repository? = SVN = I've re-aranged our SVN repository. Every subdirectory in the packages directory now has the tripple: branches/ tags/ trunk/ => trunk: this is the "head" of the current development. Every change should go here => branches: if someone wants to experimentalize something new, he can copy the current state from trunk and work in his own new directory => tags: think of the files here like "backups". Currently you can find a tag directory "10.3-release-1.0/" in some of the directories - containing the state of the package after the release of openSUSE-Education 1.0 for 10.3 In the end, you need to make a "svn up" before you proceed now. AND: everything is prepared for the 11.0 release - so please update the opensuse-education-docu now :-) = Some additional tools = As described on http://en.opensuse.org/Education/Development - we're currently using some tools (most of them are simple bash scripts) to help with packaging or ISO creation. I've created a new SVN directory: https://svn.linux-schulserver.de/viewvc/packages/opensuse-education-tools/t… (opensuse-education-tools) which now contains most of the stuff. If you find additional scripts/tools/whatever - feel free to add them here. I think we can create a package out of this SVN directory sometimes - but currently I don't see any need for this. Any questions about the scripts in this directory? Feel free to ask :-) With kind regards, Lars -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-edu+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-edu+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-edu] Suse in the class room
by Jordi Massaguer 15 Jul '08

15 Jul '08

Hi! At the linkat project we have a very good experience on using LTSP. One reason of such a success was that the administration became much easier than before. You need to connect the server through Gigabit. The clients do not need to go through Gigabit, but the server do. Look for a switch that can handle that. The server should be a good PC, as it is the key point and also the bottleneck of the design. If the server crashes, you lose the whole classroom. So, my advice is to get a brand new PC, with at least 4GB of RAM (this should be enough for 20 computers), dual core and RAID hard discs (it can be SATA discs). Some people would recommend you to buy a real server. It is not a bad idea, but you should look at the costs. Then you can use all the other computers as clients, even old computers that you may not be using. You could even buy thin clients (150€?) . I did a research some months ago about the costs of implementing classrooms using LTSP. I am not sending it because it is in Spanish, but to sum it up, you could have three times more computers by using LTSP, as well as less maintenance problems. jordi massaguer i pla http://jordimassaguerpla.blogspot.com/ openSUSE member Novell Certified Linux Professional 10 ----- Mensaje original ---- > De: CyberOrg <cyberorg(a)opensuse.org> > Para: opensuse-edu(a)opensuse.org > Enviado: martes, 15 de julio, 2008 10:32:24 > Asunto: Re: [opensuse-edu] Suse in the class room > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 1:46 PM, CyberOrg wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Richard Bos wrote: > > > >> > >> How well does kiwi-ltsp perform with audio and video applications? Is it > >> already possible to run such applications for example locally on the client? > > > > Audio, local usb disks, printers work very well, video is bit laggy as > > expected, but can be remedied to some extent by using LDM_DIRECTX, if > > security is not of concern. > > > > See: http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP > > > > BTW, KIWI-LTSP and iTalc make a great combination for administering > classroom, they are both integrated in openSUSE-EDU distribution :) > > Cheers > > -J > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-edu+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-edu+help(a)opensuse.org ______________________________________________ Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! La bandeja de entrada más inteligente. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-edu+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-edu+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-edu] Suse in the class room
by mike drawneek 14 Jul '08

14 Jul '08

Hi, A short question, is there any HOWTOs or other documents relating to the upkeep and maintenance of rooms of computers running OpenSuse? I have seen Zenworks 7, this seems to do what I want but only runs on SLED, does any body know of any oos that will do the job? mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-edu+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-edu+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-edu] DIDASCA, LAZZARO PROJECT and openbabel 2.2.0
by Andrea Florio 11 Jul '08

11 Jul '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Folks, openbabel 2.2.0 STABLE has been built. This mail is just to inform an important change, infact we have no more libopenbabel2 but now thereis libopenbabel3 that of course "obsoletes" and "provides" libopenbabel2. but the most important news is another one. I'm proud to annunce that DIDASCA ( http://www.didasca.it/ ) use on their "Progetto Lazzaro" ( http://www.progettolazzaro.it/ ) openSUSE and LTSP like instrumets to recovery obsoletes LANs and PCs Goals of prjects are to make Italian schools able to use LTSP on theier Education Enviroment with support of Italian "Education Ministry". I'm waiting for more and better infos but all the projects sound a greate way to improve Linux use on Education Enviroments and also to make our openSUSE better known. So... We must work hard to end openSUSE 11.0 EDU-CD on time. Andrea Florio -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkh2DSEACgkQyCZT87TFPuihgQCbBxwNFw8JCMviyHMBoh+lUX8+ WvQAoN+vcSShiaEW3CDLlJF3iEH5R9rd =+bz9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-edu+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-edu+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-edu] openSUSE 11.0 : Packages status
by Andrea Florio 11 Jul '08

11 Jul '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 a great job has been made! OpenSUSE 11.0 summary 32 bit: succeeded: 181 failed: 7 expansion error: 3 disabled: 59 64 bit: succeeded: 145 failed: 7 expansion error: 5 disabled: 93 All most important packages fixed (littlewizard, scilab, netbeans, octave, ecc) just few errors to fix like fpc and some littles troubles, but all is working well and most important FAST. i think we should start to create and test our first alpha (or beta as you wish) openSUSE 11.0 EDU-CD Andrea -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkhsEbIACgkQyCZT87TFPujK3QCfU3/b+ih+xusgH/SwaGzJ1OjI IAsAoM/8NsylZs3i2UoSvixJILpQ3gNA =S2pH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-edu+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-edu+help(a)opensuse.org

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