February 2003 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

TT
by Taylor (Mr) 11 Feb '03

11 Feb '03

I (my school) had used TT and I thought it was rather unexceptional and I wrote a lot of material myself. My current school uses it but I don't bother as I do most of the material myself. It is relatively easy to scan documents and make short videos (I have not done any videos yet but have a camera - although I can't get it to work with 8.1) and put them onto a web server. It is also better to make a localised series of material as the Telford specific stuff does not always reach the students in the same way as the local shop etc. It also galls me to pay £3,000 a year for a few web pages that could be knocked up by 6th form students as part of their AQA Unit 11 work. The other problem with TT is that it is intended for A-C students and is therefore useless for Foundation students who really need web based material. TT have not addressed this issue as presumably there is no money/kudos in it? Ooo would be fine for GNVQ but with the old caveat that there is no Access like DB to use. I am going to try to get my students to sign up for UKLinux and play with phpMyAdmin. The course spec does not require them to use forms, although these are "pretty", so php should be fine. The other alternative that I can see, though not free, is to use Ability Database as that will run with Wine/CrossOver etc. It is fairly cheap and has the same Doze feel as Access. HTH Paul PS If anyone wants to write an Open Source GNVQ project for Foundation using Ooo with me...NATO (Not A Thomas telford Offshoot?, Not thomas telford Aimed at Foundation?)

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] gnvq
by Chris Puttick 11 Feb '03

11 Feb '03

Call me silly, but howabout he gets together with a few other schools (and Ian!) to create an Star/OOo equivalent. If he adds up the costs of MS Windows, Office and Publisher plus the outrageous charge by Thomas Telford (that created by public money should remain public!), he would easily be justified in retaining a student for a year under best value. The MS solution to these courses is highly socially exclusive, and therefore the exact opposite of what schools should be using. Chris -----Original Message----- From: Phil Driscoll To: SuSE Linux UK Schools Sent: 2/11/03 10:02 AM Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] gnvq The school I help out at is considering using the Thomas Telford online materials to run a gnvq course. It appears that this is very MS specific and requires MS office. This would kick a big hole in our current OOo/LTSP setup. Does anyone have any alternative suggestions I can take to the head? -- Phil Driscoll -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com

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gnvq
by Phil Driscoll 11 Feb '03

11 Feb '03

The school I help out at is considering using the Thomas Telford online materials to run a gnvq course. It appears that this is very MS specific and requires MS office. This would kick a big hole in our current OOo/LTSP setup. Does anyone have any alternative suggestions I can take to the head? -- Phil Driscoll

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Squid blocking per room?/Per machine (wildcard)?
by Administrator 11 Feb '03

11 Feb '03

IP's are DHCP, so that's kinda random. The name (netbios?) is unique though, IdentD service also running too, if that's any help. :S How can I block by pc name? Dug Stokes Senior Webmaster Gilberd IS Department E: dug(a)gilberd.com W: www.gilberd.com -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Adam [mailto:thomas_adam16@yahoo.com] Sent: 10 February 2003 11:55 To: Administrator; 'suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com' Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Squid blocking per room?/Per machine (wildcard)? Yes, I have some.... Squid works its filtering not only on ACL's but on IP/subnets too. Assuming that the IP addresses of your machines in the specific room have a commonality about them then it should be easy enough for you to block an entire room. HTH, -- Thomas Adam --- Administrator <Administrator(a)gilberd.essex.sch.uk> wrote: > Is there any easy way anyone can see of letting > Squid block internet access > to an entire room of kids? > > At the moment, the ACL's block some users and some > websites, but sometimes, > for obvious reasons a teacher wants us to block, > say, Room 30 from having > internet access. > > Each machine is Win2k, and is named '30-pcxx' where > xx is a number to > uniquely id the machine. > > I've written a vb program before that runs before > IE, but it isn't very > successful!! > > Any ideas?? Pur-lease?! > > Dug Stokes > Senior Webmaster > Gilberd IS Department > E: dug(a)gilberd.com > W: www.gilberd.com > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com > For additional commands, e-mail: > suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com > ===== Thomas Adam "The Linux Weekend Mechanic" -- www.linuxgazette.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Squid blocking per room?/Per machine (wildcard)?
by Administrator 11 Feb '03

11 Feb '03

Is there any easy way anyone can see of letting Squid block internet access to an entire room of kids? At the moment, the ACL's block some users and some websites, but sometimes, for obvious reasons a teacher wants us to block, say, Room 30 from having internet access. Each machine is Win2k, and is named '30-pcxx' where xx is a number to uniquely id the machine. I've written a vb program before that runs before IE, but it isn't very successful!! Any ideas?? Pur-lease?! Dug Stokes Senior Webmaster Gilberd IS Department E: dug(a)gilberd.com W: www.gilberd.com

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Mozilla
by N.Pauli 11 Feb '03

11 Feb '03

Not exactly Linux but definitely open source... On our RM Connect 2.32 network I have been having increasing problems with IE5.001 which is now dpread over 4 packages at least. Realising (thanks Linux User mag) that Mozilla do a Windows version, I've downloaded and installed that. Very, very impressive is the least that can be said. It's now being rolled out as default browser. Nigel -- Nigel Pauli Network Manager St. John's School, Northwood

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] FW: [school-discuss] Red Hat Linux to certify schoolkids
by Chris Puttick 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

Not as yet, but why wait? May be it could be tied into the LPI stuff. We're already a Cisco Acadmey (take newbies through to CCNA by stretching the content over 6 semesters), and there are (but we aren't (-: ) MS Academies in most cities (which presumably do a similar job of making the MCP accessible to the inexperienced - should make the course about 4 hours (-; ). It's an excellent way of introducing generic Linux skills to a wider audience, and help up the skill levels available for those schools/companies interested in taking the Linux route. BTW, the Cisco Academy makes us money through charging small fees for the course, but Cisco don't give us any money, just make the materials available online and a forum to ask questions in which is usuallly populated with one or two knowledgeable Cisco staff. So the costs to SuSE would be minimal - just keep the academies supplied with latest product copies and that's it. -----Original Message----- From: Roger Whittaker To: Chris Puttick Cc: 'suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com' Sent: 2/6/03 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] FW: [school-discuss] Red Hat Linux to certify schoolkids I don't know how Red Hat's scheme will work in practice: is it available in the UK? On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Chris Puttick wrote: > How about it Roger? We'll happily volunteer to be your first "SuSE Academy"! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Doug Loss > To: schoolforge-discuss(a)schoolforge.net > Sent: 2/4/03 11:11 PM > Subject: [school-discuss] Red Hat Linux to certify schoolkids > > Take a look at this article: > > <http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=7600> > > -- Roger Whittaker SuSE Linux Ltd Appleton House 139 King Street Hammersmith W6 9JG ------------------ 020 8846 3923 ------------------ roger(a)suse.co.uk ------------------

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FW: [school-discuss] Red Hat Linux to certify schoolkids
by Chris Puttick 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

How about it Roger? We'll happily volunteer to be your first "SuSE Academy"! -----Original Message----- From: Doug Loss To: schoolforge-discuss(a)schoolforge.net Sent: 2/4/03 11:11 PM Subject: [school-discuss] Red Hat Linux to certify schoolkids Take a look at this article: <http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=7600> -- If this helped you please take the time to rate the value of this post; just click on the Affero link below. http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=drloss Doug Loss All you need in this life is drloss(a)suscom.net ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure. Mark Twain

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The Z (zed) Specification Language
by Quinlan, Grant 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

Anyone have any experience in using Z or teaching Z at the High School or Jr. College level? I'm looking for any help and resources that would useful in preparing to teach, and to plan and prepare lesson guides for an introductory class in formal software specification. Grant Q <mailto:Quinlan@ACM.org>

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Migrating Users NT/2000 -> Linux
by Russell 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

While ur on the subject of samba, any ideas on howto get a digital camera accessed by a samba domain user? cos i only seem to be able to be shown any pictures from the camera, when im logged on as a local user. Also MSN Messenger wont run unless your domain account has been added as an adminstrator on that machine. This is using SuSE 8.1 and Windows 2000 SP3 reply on russellian(a)onetel.net.uk plz :) Thanks, Russell > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matt Johnson" <johnsonmlw(a)yahoo.com> > To: "SuSe" <suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 1:59 AM > Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Migrating Users NT/2000 -> Linux > > > > --- Alex Brett <alex.brett(a)brettcomputers.co.uk> > > wrote: > We are actually going to continue using > > Windows > > > > > From the look of that samba > > > roadmap a great deal > > > of the features there look useful to me - and > > > looking at the alpha the > > > group mapping feature looks particularly useful as > > > presumably that > > > fixes the problems I've had before where group > > > policies don't work just > > > by putting in a group name in poledit - you have to > > > use default user and > > > have multiple policy files and give each group a > > > different netlogon dir > > > (if people understand what i mean). > > > > > > Incidently, I use: > > > > [netlogon] > > path = /someplace/%g > > > > to map "netlogon" to a different directory depending > > on the group of the user connecting. Works very well. > > Think that's what you have setup anyway, but if not, > > then give it a whirl. > > > > Cheers > > > > -- > > Matt Johnson > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > > http://uk.my.yahoo.com > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com > > For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com > > > > >

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