January 2003 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Need Linux Experience :)
by Russell 20 Jan '03

20 Jan '03

Hi all, This might be one of the few times I write to the mailinglist, but I would like to know if I would be able to do Work Experience in the Wilmslow, Manchester area. I am interested in linux and would like to work in such an invironment such as Network admin for linux servers. I am reasonable experienced, Ive started my own internet service provider, providong webhosting and linux shells. Please reply with any information you might have. If you know a school or office which uses Linux servers it would be very helpfull. Many Thanks, Russell Trafford russellian(a)onetel.net.uk

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] SIMS / PHP
by peterbarber 20 Jan '03

20 Jan '03

Don't know if it is of help but the common transfer (and the plasc forms) generate XML output which you may be able to use to transfer information into, and out of, SIMS. >===== Original Message From Mark Evans <mpe(a)st-peters-high.devon.sch.uk> ===== >On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 11:45:12AM +0000, ian wrote: >> On Sun, 2003-01-19 at 11:38, Mark Evans wrote: >> > On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 09:47:40PM -0000, Kyle Williamson wrote: >> > > And so we have, alas :( >> > > I could do with something where I click a magical button and the exam >> > > timetables,timetables etc are transported across into MySQL... >> > >> > If you find such a "magic button" could you also check for one which >> > works with LEAs :) >> >> Don't know too much about this, but won't the DfES common data format >> allow transfer of all the data from SIMS to other databases? I thought >> the idea of the CDF was to make the data independent of the system it >> was in? > >Considering the fun we had with PLASC I'm not convinced that this >concept is well understood by the decision makers. > >-- >Mark Evans >St. Peter's CofE High School >Phone: +44 1392 204764 X109 >Fax: +44 1392 204763 > >-- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com >For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] SIMS / PHP
by Grainge, Derek 19 Jan '03

19 Jan '03

The subtext being that SIMS.net is replacing SIMS and MENTOR; hence a specific development to access SIMS will inevitably be a short-term solution. I doubt that Capita will continue to support SIMS for long now they have a new product on the market. The other point being that if any part of SIMS has files of a recognisable format, an ODBC interface can be created either to the file or to the data dictionary if it exists. No doubt you have been down this road. > Sounds nice... BUT our SIMS system isnt based around MS-SQL, > its more a bit of a bit of everything :S > > I think it was Rob Keeling who mentioned something about this? > > From: Grainge, Derek [mailto:DGG@wellington-college.berks.sch.uk] > > > I don't know about SIMS, but SIMS.net uses MS-SQL; No doubt > the data will > be encrypted. > > I can happily read data from Capita's other product, Mentor, > as it has an > ODBC interface. The files are foxbase (but you don't need to > know that to > read data) and unencrypted. -- ******************************************************************************** All mail sent and received may be examined to prevent transmission of unacceptable material. Wellington College does not accept responsibility for email contents. Problems to postmaster(a)wellington-college.berks.sch.uk. Website: http://www.wellington-college.berks.sch.uk ********************************************************************************

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] SIMS / PHP
by Grainge, Derek 19 Jan '03

19 Jan '03

I don't know about SIMS, but SIMS.net uses MS-SQL; No doubt the data will be encrypted. I can happily read data from Capita's other product, Mentor, as it has an ODBC interface. The files are foxbase (but you don't need to know that to read data) and unencrypted. > -----Original Message----- > From: Kyle Williamson [mailto:kyle@solented.co.uk] > Sent: 17 January 2003 21:23 > To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com > Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] SIMS / PHP > > > Did we ever find a technically resolution to SIMS talking to PHP? > > Kyle > > > == > > Kyle Williamson > Solent Educational Limited > > Tel: (023) 80 843189 Fax: (023) 80 848715 > http://www.solented.co.uk/ > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com > For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com > > -- ******************************************************************************** All mail sent and received may be examined to prevent transmission of unacceptable material. Wellington College does not accept responsibility for email contents. Problems to postmaster(a)wellington-college.berks.sch.uk. Website: http://www.wellington-college.berks.sch.uk ********************************************************************************

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SIMS / PHP
by Kyle Williamson 19 Jan '03

19 Jan '03

Did we ever find a technically resolution to SIMS talking to PHP? Kyle == Kyle Williamson Solent Educational Limited Tel: (023) 80 843189 Fax: (023) 80 848715 http://www.solented.co.uk/

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Printer control software
by Grainge, Derek 17 Jan '03

17 Jan '03

My school has it working under NT; and I have to say I am not really all that impressed. It has miscounted costs, and we have had to force it to recount pages to rectify this. It will report student's balances and you can provide them with credit, and optionally refuse to print when the system goes in the red. You can bill pupils or parents later. My feeling is that billing later misses the point: which is to prevent little gremlins from wasting printouts in the first place. As far as credit is concerned, if you decide to prevent printing when the balance hits zero, you will get queues of kids whinging about their balances - and this will impose a considerable burden on the small number (one?) of people who are asked to administer the system: a bottleneck. Pcounter's website mentions a machine you can install near a printer. This allows pupils who are over-limit to identify jobs and put money in to pay for them. The machine itself isn't cheap and I think it's windows only. There must be better than this? What do others have to say? > -----Original Message----- > From: Colin Davies [mailto:colinidavies@yahoo.com] > Sent: 16 January 2003 17:52 > To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com > Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Printer control software > > > I found out about a print control program called > Pcounter at Bett. Although it is intended for NT > (excuse my language)It does work on Linux with samba > running. However getting it to work without using an > extra computer with NT is causing problems. Our > current bill for printing consumables is approaching > £10K and this seems a promising solution to the > multiple printing. > > Has anyone got Pcounter or any other print control > software working under Linux? > > Colin Davies > Meadows Community School > Chesterfield > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my.yahoo.com > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com > For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com > > -- ******************************************************************************** All mail sent and received may be examined to prevent transmission of unacceptable material. Wellington College does not accept responsibility for email contents. Problems to postmaster(a)wellington-college.berks.sch.uk. Website: http://www.wellington-college.berks.sch.uk ********************************************************************************

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Re: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Printer control software
by David Watson 17 Jan '03

17 Jan '03

Hey all Check out PrintBill (http://freshmeat.net/projects/printbill/?topic_id=154) on freshmeat.net, runs on linux, costs print-outs per page or based on toner usage. I haven't used it myself yet but I have been testing it at home, I will be running soon. You wrote: > The school I was at had PCounter on a Novell server. It also miscounted but we discovered it was because there was more than one queue to a physical printer and the config needed changing. The licence costs were quite considerable over our server base. > > CUPS was the answer I eventually adopted but since then, having left the school, I'm sure I've seen some sort of print accounting/quota for Linux but I can't recall it! -- David Watson Systems Manager Blue Coat School

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Printer control software
by Chris Puttick 17 Jan '03

17 Jan '03

If there is no OS Linux solution yet, I have a couple of questions: Q1 Anyone up for developing one? Funded? Q2 Anyone want to chip in towards the development costs? Cheers Chris -----Original Message----- From: Grainge, Derek To: Colin Davies; suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com Sent: 1/16/03 6:06 PM Subject: RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Printer control software My school has it working under NT; and I have to say I am not really all that impressed. It has miscounted costs, and we have had to force it to recount pages to rectify this. It will report student's balances and you can provide them with credit, and optionally refuse to print when the system goes in the red. You can bill pupils or parents later. My feeling is that billing later misses the point: which is to prevent little gremlins from wasting printouts in the first place. As far as credit is concerned, if you decide to prevent printing when the balance hits zero, you will get queues of kids whinging about their balances - and this will impose a considerable burden on the small number (one?) of people who are asked to administer the system: a bottleneck. Pcounter's website mentions a machine you can install near a printer. This allows pupils who are over-limit to identify jobs and put money in to pay for them. The machine itself isn't cheap and I think it's windows only. There must be better than this? What do others have to say? > -----Original Message----- > From: Colin Davies [mailto:colinidavies@yahoo.com] > Sent: 16 January 2003 17:52 > To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com > Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Printer control software > > > I found out about a print control program called > Pcounter at Bett. Although it is intended for NT > (excuse my language)It does work on Linux with samba > running. However getting it to work without using an > extra computer with NT is causing problems. Our > current bill for printing consumables is approaching > £10K and this seems a promising solution to the > multiple printing. > > Has anyone got Pcounter or any other print control > software working under Linux? > > Colin Davies > Meadows Community School > Chesterfield > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my.yahoo.com > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com > For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com > > -- ************************************************************************ ******** All mail sent and received may be examined to prevent transmission of unacceptable material. Wellington College does not accept responsibility for email contents. Problems to postmaster(a)wellington-college.berks.sch.uk. Website: http://www.wellington-college.berks.sch.uk ************************************************************************ ******** -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com

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Printer control software
by Colin Davies 16 Jan '03

16 Jan '03

I found out about a print control program called Pcounter at Bett. Although it is intended for NT (excuse my language)It does work on Linux with samba running. However getting it to work without using an extra computer with NT is causing problems. Our current bill for printing consumables is approaching £10K and this seems a promising solution to the multiple printing. Has anyone got Pcounter or any other print control software working under Linux? Colin Davies Meadows Community School Chesterfield __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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The Guardian last Tuesday
by Derek Harding 13 Jan '03

13 Jan '03

Hi, A friend passed this on to me. http://education.guardian.co.uk/elearning/story/0%2c10577%2c869738%2c00.html Even a simplification is better than nothing! -- Best wishes, Derek

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