On my SuSE 7.3 system, xdm isn't setup, but kdm is. Unfortunately, VNC uses
xdm as the default.
As a result using -inetd mode to start VNC sessions isn't very successful
(blank screen). Is there any configuration file to change to make it use kdm
rather than xdm? Or is this hard coded into the VNC sources?
Or are there any other methods of getting VNC to work with kdm on SuSE 7.3
Cheers, Chris Howells -- chris(a)chrishowells.co.uk, howells(a)kde.org
Web: http://chrishowells.co.uk, PGP key: http://chrishowells.co.uk/pgp.txt
KDE: http://www.koffice.org, http://edu.kde.org, http://usability.kde.org
Just before you guys start getting too easy on "new eco-friendly
Microsoft". Check out the Paxman-esque interviewing style of the BBC's
"Gee Bill, if I'm really nice to you will you give my school some of
your brilliantly clever software too?"
(Strange how this gig went to a nice middle-class girl with a carefully
brushed bob rather than a spotty male nerd with his own Web server and
an attitude .)
Damian COUNSELL http://www.counsell.com/
Mark Evans Wrote:
"Not all games have educational value, nor does
an educationally valuable game require fancy
graphics on a high spec machine."
Absolutely! I didn't mean to give the impression that that was what I was
trying to state. You are of course correct- and finding the balance between
"educational" games and "fun" and also making sure the game appeals to a
broad audience is a major problem we had when setting up the "LAN Gaming
Club" Hence we decided that where a game may not "inherently" have
educational content or value, the technical lessons learned from setting up
a LAN prior to gaming and troubleshooting that same LAn when problems arise
can of themselves lead to educational value. For us it worked really well.
The club was oversubscribed.
Games such as Age of Empires, Cossacks, and similar wargames based plots
were very popular all round--and yes--even Command and Conquer Red Alert.
These games aren't "educational" in the strict sense of the term, but have
some historical value; teach economics on a real basic level etc etc.
However, there is a danger in trying to take games and philosophise about
their general educational value--this gets out of hand. We used games such
as Unreal Tournament and Quake for the older student club meetings a
lot--and after setting up the LAN and configuring the hardware and software
found that that alone gave them a sense of educational accomplishment
followed by some raw fun. As I said--it worked for us, but may not work for
The LAN Gaming Club actually turned into more of a " bring your own PC and
we'll have a hardware night" sort of thing in the end. PCs were fixed,
lessons learned on configuring hardware, installing drives etc., and gaming
was often forgotten about. Ironically, it was at this point the teaching
staff decided that the club had run its course :-O
Certainly in the area of games Linux could go some steps further- but this
depends on games developers and bigger still brands such as EA and Acclaim,
UbiSoft etc porting their games (or writing them from the start) to Linux.
Personally I don't see this happening real soon--although the recent
partnership (?) Mandrake have beggered with EA and Transgaming will help.
This is also my opinion--but games on Windows 98 suck! Crashes, driver
updates, the need for the latest and greatest hardware, faster chips etc etc
all point to a lock in that gamers really feed by their incessant need to
get the latest 6GB game! (Now- where's my copy of Commandos 2?)
On the other hand, gamers have been the target audience and to some extent
the movers for making sure that technology does develop faster and better
products...so there are advantages. Linux perhaps needs to be on that slide
show, but for me that wouldn't be much of an incentive to buy Linux on the
desktop anyway--stability is my main concern. If I want to play games, I
move to my games console (PS2..soon to be GC). Nothing *wrong* with games
As for games in schools--when I worked in a local technical college as a
technician we held network gaming clubs playing things like Command and
Conquer (Red Alert) across the LAN. However, we made the kids set up the
small LAN first!! This meant they had to learn the basics of cabling,
installing NICs and some TCP/IP fundamentals att he same time. It worked a
charm! Games with educational value? Absolutely!
> -----Original Message-----
> Straying back on-topic. If we want to push Linux as a
> desktop, we are going
> to have to push the games arena to port games over. If you
> could get FS2K or
> equiv for Linux then I would remove Win98 today. I'm sure
> I'm not the only
This is a well known fact. The games arena is being worked on heavily
though and things such as Mandrake Gaming Edition help.
As for you switiching 100% to Linux, why not install VMWare or Plex86
or...even wine. ;P
I know this it totally OT, but it's not very often I get the chance to send
an email with this subject line.
MS have just released Flight Sim 2002 and the first thing I noticed when I
look on the shelf in EB is that MS seem to be one of the first suppliers to
have listened to the environmental movements and shipped the product in an
appropriate sized box instead of one the size of a volume from the
Encyclopedia Britanica. Admittedly it doesn't look as impressive on the
shelf as all the other products - most of which only contain a single CD and
a lot of air.
If more suppliers follow suit then everyone will be the winners, as less
natural resources will be used.
BTW, if the reviews are anything to go by, then they've also produced an
excelent product too!!!
For those of you out there who are alarmed by this post, don't worry, I've
not defected. FS2K is the *only* reason I have Win98 installed at home.
Straying back on-topic. If we want to push Linux as a desktop, we are going
to have to push the games arena to port games over. If you could get FS2K or
equiv for Linux then I would remove Win98 today. I'm sure I'm not the only
This email does not contain private or confidential material as it
may be snooped on by interested government parties for unknown
and undisclosed purposes - Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, 2000
Well- I don't want to bring this up again for fear of angry retribution!
However, today I got notice from my College that I will HAVE to use MS
Project Software for my latest course unit. Period. Before getting
notification about this, I had looked at the excellent Mr Project for
Linux--which I believe does allow Gantt graph design (though limited at this
Anyhow--so much for choice! I have had to wipe off my Mandrake install
(which was fresh) and put on Windows ME (since I won't pay the money for
XP). Straight after install, I got a BSOD; I have also had to invest in
Antivirus software :-( That's something I haven't done for about two years
(thanks to Linux)!
Mayeb those screaming for more choice in ICT within schools and also for the
end-user should keep up their good work...otherwise this damned OS will
drive me MAD.
Oh well- at least my laptop still has Linux on it :-)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Howells [SMTP:email@example.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 1:25 PM
> To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com
> Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Hi all
> May I ask what kind of work? What I'd really love is for somebody to make
> it possible to restrict the things that are possible in KDE -- for example
> so that a school could use it on the desktop without the kids fiddling with
> all the settings.
> I did notice however something that Waldo put on:
> about preventing users changing the wallpaper, and stuff.
Can't this be done by sym-linking the appropriate parts of '.kde' to a non writable master copy. I though I'd limit my users (my wife) in this fashion but see told me not to....
You could also limit access to the config application. Ah the power of the UID....
Can anyone recommend a good tool - or the best tool, preferably :) - for
setting up and managing several hundred user names, passwords, home
directories, samba passwords - the usual school user admin stuff.
> -----Original Message-----
> They have been found to have broken the law, including
> abuse of monoploy position more than once. But the most
> powerful government in the world (which is quite happy
> to exterminate the governments of nations they don't
> like) appears utterly powerless in this situation.
OK...firstly...yes they *have* been a monopolising company, and
secondly, the actions of the USA in Arghanistan are off topic.
> An organisation which can repeatedly put 2 fingers
> up to a US federal court and get told "we'll tell
> you to be nice for 5 years and if you don't we'll
> tell you for 7 years". IMHO isn't too far off
> ruling the world.
Ruling the world? I think not...
> > - they have such a monopoly through tough business
> practices and also
> There are "tough business practices" and there is
> breaking the law. (Also when a business uses the
> business practices of a gangster shouldn't it be
> treated the same way as a business set up bg gangsters?)
I dont think they use the practices of a gangster. Unfair
competition...yes...mowing down people with guns and torturing your
> > (believe it or not) through some decent products.
> Which products do you think are good, why do you think
> they are good? Also do you still think they are good
> for the environment of a school.
I think MS Office is a good suite. It is well designed, works fairly
well and gets kids using computers at an early age with a simple
interface. IMHO kids need something that is simple to use and works as
they expect it, and Office is pretty much this way. Also...most other
office suites have pretty much replicated the interface (which is good
IMHO). Yes it is expensive and yes it is closed and yes it is
proprietary, but I am looking at the interface and the featureset here.
> Lots of flaws does not necessarily imply "not viable".
> It's more a question of can the "flaws" be addressed,
> IME changing how open source software works is far
> easier than with closed source.
Lots of flaws for a Linux developer/advocate = viable
Lots of flaws for a Linux newbie = not viable
Like anything in life, there are varying levels of positive and
negative. Microsoft does have its good points, and it does its bad
points. Also, it is not like they are the only comptetitor out there for