May 2000 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Re: [SuSE-linux-uk-schools] 6.4 / squid
by adrian.wells 26 May '00

26 May '00

Thanks for the replies >Squid will NOT work out of the box. It does need manual configuration, but >in my experience all you need to do is set the IP it listens to, the port, >and the access rules. Then just say, in Netscape, the servername and the >port, and all should be OK. If you need to do more with it, I recommend >you start in /usr/doc/packages/squid or /usr/doc/packages/squid2, or the >squid website. A previous reply implied that it should work out of the box - hence reinstalling it. I assumed that it should listen to an IP, but previous answers implied (or my interpretation of them) that this was 'automatic' and squid just saw the required resource, I have looked throughout the config files and the literature on the web but couldn't find any reference to this (probably on the first line of the first page!). I am using a modem with a normal dial-up account, where should I point squid? To my providers IP? A slight aside, The location of files as reported by vendors is often (6.3) not the same in SuSE, why is this? is it to do with the preferences of the person that build the packages? Just wondered as it can confuse when looking at other sources of info. Kind Regards Adrian Wells

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Today's welcome message
by Roger Whittaker 26 May '00

26 May '00

Hello everyone ... People are signing up for this list every day ... Let's hear from you - post a message to introduce yourselves and say what you are doing or hoping to do with Linux. Reminder about the Linux Expo and Conference: look at www.suse.co.uk Olympia, London, 1st and 2nd June. Have a lot of fun ... Roger -- Roger Whittaker SuSE Linux Ltd The Kinetic Centre Theobald Street Borehamwood Herts WD6 4PJ ---------------------- 020 8387 1482 ---------------------- roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk ----------------------

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6.4 / squid
by adrian.wells 26 May '00

26 May '00

Upgraded to 6.4 - no problems. Anyone not yet installed 6.3 - spend another £15 for 6.4, the documentation is MUCH improved, especially for beginners. Well done. I have removed Squid and reinstalled Squid2 (stable) and it will still not 'work out of the box' :-( If I point to squid (in my Netscape proxy settings) NS takes an eternity to decide that it can not find the page (e.g. www.dogpile.com) and then squid tells me that I may not have rights to access the site. (logged in as ROOT), Someone please put me out of my misery. Thanks Adrian Wells

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Squid 2
by Matt Johnson 26 May '00

26 May '00

I had a similar struggle with squid2. I looked up the squid site and had a good look over the stuff there. They had some examples of .conf files. It's tricky to say exactly what the problem is, but a couple of hours spent editting their most basic example should pay off. Make sure the security is lax at first (they've got some examples of this), then tighten it up as you need to. It'll sort you out. -- Matt Johnson ICT Co-ordinator St. Andrew's CE Primary __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/

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list test
by Roger Whittaker 24 May '00

24 May '00

list test - ignore -- Roger Whittaker SuSE Linux Ltd The Kinetic Centre Theobald Street Borehamwood Herts WD6 4PJ ---------------------- 020 8387 1482 ---------------------- roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk ----------------------

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Hello
by kevin.taylor＠powerconv.alstom.com 23 May '00

23 May '00

Hi, > However, my first reaction to SuSe 6.4 is probably > not as enthusiastic as most of you would like. Linux is not for everyone - so best thing to do is try it and see if it can work for you. At least you can do that quite cheaply (well, money wise anyway - it all takes time of course). > Boot to a GUI You need to configure and run xdm on startup. > Enable connectivity to a Novell server using only IPX - Not TCP/IP This may be a kernel option - I don't know if the standard SuSE kernel support IPX 'out of the box' ... Just out of interest, seeing as Novell supports IPX and IP and Windows supports IPX, IP and Netbeui and Linux supports IPX and IP .... if you are using the internet (IP) would it not make more sense to switch all platforms over to a single network protocol - ie IP ... ? You would still need IP networking enabled on the Linux box, even if you get it to do file access via IPX to your Novell system. > Run JUST an Office suite, a web browser and possibly > some extra educational software ie not install all the > thousands of little apps and games In this case, I would suggest you should install the SuSE base system, deselect everything, and then only install the bits you do want ... You should be told as part of the installation if you are asking for something that depends on something else as well. Obviously you will have to perform a test installation somewhere to work out which of the applications you would actually like to use in the first place ... > Authenticate logins from a server (at the moment > non-linux) - I don't want to set-up 700+ users on every > workstation Don't know about this one. What are you authenticating against - Windows, Novell ? Kevin.

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Hello
by Steve Phillips 23 May '00

23 May '00

Hi, to one and all I'm Steve Phillips and I run the IT stuff at Central Technology College in Gloucester. At the risk of upsetting the group, I must confess to being a Novell / Microsoft person. This is by no means a fixed situation as I believe in looking at all available technologies. However, my first reaction to SuSe 6.4 is probably not as enthusiastic as most of you would like. What I would like Linux to do is as follows. Boot to a GUI Enable connectivity to a Novell server using only IPX - Not TCP/IP Run JUST an Office suite, a web browser and possibly some extra educational software ie not install all the thousands of little apps and games Authenticate logins from a server (at the moment non-linux) - I don't want to set-up 700+ users on every workstation Whilst I can see that the GUI boot is easy enough, most of the other seems at best laborious and maybe even not possible. This may have sounded negative but I AM keen to give it a try. My only reservation is the time that it may take may outweigh the advantages. Regards

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Teacher and Blair
by Roger Whittaker 23 May '00

23 May '00

This may be amuse you ... http://www.theregister.co.uk/000522-000012.html -- Roger Whittaker SuSE Linux Ltd The Kinetic Centre Theobald Street Borehamwood Herts WD6 4PJ ---------------------- 020 8387 1482 ---------------------- roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk ----------------------

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Graphical Log-on - Screensaver.
by Edgehill E-Mail Service 19 May '00

19 May '00

Hi, We have been trying to lose the screensaver from the SuSE graphical log-on. Currently, the screen blanks between users, and I hear the whingeing cry of "Siiiir, It duzznt wuuurk," or "Siiir, Suumun's switched it off..." by which time they've switched the system off - and we have to go through the disk check before logging on. Unfortunately, neither I nor my assistant have been able to find how to disable this screensaver - or even how to change its behaviour. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Paul Ellison <SysAdm(a)edgecoll.clara.net> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Edgehill IT Department Email Service. Please check sender's address from body of Message for return address. Find us at: www.edgecoll.clara.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Linux Expo 2000
by M E Clinch 19 May '00

19 May '00

Dear All Roger Wittaker has invited you all to turn up at the Linux Expo 2000. The United Kindom Unix User Group ( UKUUG) will also be there. The UKUUG has asked me to assist in starting up a School Focus group to collect together any/all persons who can assist in getting schools to use open source software. If you can help or are willing to share knowledge, please call by the stand and say hello. I can only be there the first day but my collegues will be there both days doing sterling work. I understand they will be on the .org pavilion. Do also have a browse of http://www.ose.org.uk Dr Malcolm herbert of BECTA is also a fan of open source. His conference may be of interest to you. Regards mike -- Mike Clinch, minkl(a)dircon.co.uk, mike.clinch(a)ukuug.org Disclaimer? Acorn RiscPC + SuSE Linux box

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