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Thanks, hope we won't be losing steam during the journey, but at least
we're off onto something!
Support for openSUSE is indeed quite fragmented:
- - r/openSUSE
- - https://t.me/openSUSE_group
bridged with the Freenode IRC and the
Discord ("chat" channel)
- - "support" channel on Discord bridged with the Freenode IRC
- - mailing lists
- - https://forums.opensuse.org
- - all the non-English forums
Now even though I don't see fragmentation as a problem in itself, there
are two kinds of fragmentation that do hurt:
1) The Problem of Good Answers Take Luck
When a question needs more than just descriptive material, and ought to
be answered by something like a recommendation or a short deliberation
where pros and cons have to be weighed against each other (i.e. should
I install NVIDIA proprietary drivers or openSUSE NVIDIA package or just
use Nouveau?); in this case, depending where you ask you will get
different answers, not all equally good
2) The Problem of Good Answers Evaporate
When a question has been met by a very good answer, which unfortunately
is not conveniently discoverable by web search engines.
And now to your remark: I don't think that r/openSUSE is an issue
because in my experience -- perhaps other experiences will tell
differently -- it avoids both Problems above, and I don't see another
Problem it'd run into.
For me the issue is more with the instant messaging services. I use
them all the time and they are super good for coordination, but run
into both issues full throttle. There is no magic cure I can think of
My only hope is that if we consolidate and update all documentation
material *while also offering recommendations over and above mere
descriptive material* we will be able to have a "source of truth"
useful enough to knock down the two Problems, at least as far as new
users are concerned.
Just my opinion though.
Le mardi 13 octobre 2020 à 07:10 +0000, Lubos Kocman a écrit :
Thank you very much for your effort Adrien,
what I'd love to see is less question on reddit.com
on *.opensuse.org hosted domains. Or perhaps we just need to better
integrate with reddit :-)
On Mon, 2020-10-12 at 17:16 +0200, Adrien Glauser wrote:
On behalf of our group of volunteers working with the doc team I
to share with you this annoucement.
--- Join our team and help us improve the openSUSE learning
For years openSUSE has meant more than one distribution. With the
recent addition of Kubic and MicroOS to the Leap & Tumbleweed
different package sets, release models and workflows can be
to keep tabs on. openSUSE's ecosystem is in full blossom, but even
jungles sometimes need a clearing.
This is why a group of volunteers has taken up the task of
the learning experience for all users -- regardless of their
and expertise. For new users, we want to make sure they can
what best fits their needs, get the right tools and seamlessly take
over from the post-installation screen. For experienced users, we
to provide them with detailed documentation that is easy to update,
that their experience and expertise can benefit others.
We believe that from engineers to end-users, everyone deserves to
confidence not only in their OS, but in the way they're using it. A
chain of trust like this is made of a user-friendly documentation
technical details are balanced with evidence-based good practices.
It is with this goal in sight that we are calling the community for
more volunteers. We are already set on course but the journey will
quicker -- and funnier -- with you. Any help is welcome, especially
- writing, editing and peer-reviewing: We would be delighted to
from more knowledgeable people to help us refresh, deepen and
openSUSE's wikis and other documentation platforms
- video editing: Our video staff is looking for people interested
producing video contents and / or willing to script and record
tutorials in English
- testing: We need more people to help us test out already known
flows and settings on new hardware, see if what used to be
still should be.
So now you can't say you didn't know. Do reach out and come with us
shape the future of the openSUSE learning experience! You can find
on the following platforms:
- Telegram group: https://t.me/opensuse_docs
- IRC bridge: https://matrix.to/#/#docs:opensuse.org
- Discord bridge: https://disboard.org/fr/server/366985425371398146
then Contributing > docs
- mailing list: https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-doc/
Last but not least: this is part of a collective effort so we are
to relay to you that get.opensuse.org
-- the future entry-point to
openSUSE web platforms -- is also looking for volunteers. Their
to deploy by November and they are still looking for committers to
repo at https://github.com/opensuse/get-o-o
as well as translators.
Translation tasks can be picked up at http://l10n.opensuse.org
Everyone interested is welcome to get in touch with Stasiek
Looking forward to meeting you!
Release Manager openSUSE Leap
SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH
(HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg)
Managing Director: Felix Imendörffer
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