Re: [opensuse-doc] How can i uses SVN to translate the openSUSE 12.2 manual
Le 05/10/2012 18:29, Flashbang a écrit :
于 2012年10月05日 23:34, Guillaume Gardet 写道:
Le 05/10/2012 17:30, Luiz Fernando Ranghetti a écrit :
2012/10/5 Guillaume Gardet <guillaume.gardet@free.fr>:
Hi,
Le 05/10/2012 16:46, Luiz Fernando Ranghetti a écrit :
2012/10/5 Flashbang <flerxu@gmail.com>:
I want to translate the manual into a Chinese version , but the wiki page " Documentation Contribute " gets me dizzy for it tells little about how . Anyone could help me ? Thanks!
Hi,
The 'official' workflow to translate the documentation manual is to translate the 'en' xml files on the openSUSE SVN
http://svn.opensuse.org/viewvc/opensuse-doc/trunk/documents/distribution/
-> for visualization
Or if you are not comfortable translating xml files and prefer .po files I have a 'not official' server with .po files managed at www.vertaal.com.ar
In any way, its a huge task ;-)
I'm thinking that maybe we can create a task for Google Code-In to joint and automatizate these two forms of translating, what do you guys think?
French (fr) use POT/PO files with some script in openSUSE SVN: http://svn.opensuse.org/viewvc/opensuse-doc/trunk/documents/distribution/fr/
We generate POT files from english XML, then create/update french PO files, then translate those PO files, then generate translated XML files from french PO files and english XML files and finally generate HTML or PDF files from translated xml files.
If needed we could move the POT folder out from FR so that all languages have access to it.
If you have any comments or questions, please ask.
Guillaume Hi,
I think it's a great and clean solution, this way I can shut down my 'non-official' solution and move the files to openSUSE svn (of course after contact the other teams that use it).
How to you handle the po2xml for non 100% translated files (in xml2pot I use it has to be 100% translated). The xml2po you use leave the untranslated string in english? (this is a good think)
Yes, xml2po leave non translated strings in english, that's all.
Guillaume
Regards,
Luiz
Hi,
Glad to get replys. I think I have learned about what you said.I have two questions:How to generate xml to PO files and what is the difference between PO and POT file.
POT is a PO Template. More information here: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Localization_work_with_po_files You need to make : * XML => POT : for each file, do : "xml2po --mode=docbook -k -o file.pot file.xml" (replacing file.pot and file.xml with the right names) * POT => PO : ** Create PO if it does not exist: "msginit --no-translator --locale=$lang --input=file.pot --output-file=file.$lang.po" (replacing $lang with your language code) ** Update PO if it already exist: "msgmerge --previous --update file.po file.pot" You can do it manually, or use the scripts I made. (Have a look in FR folder). If others are OK, I can move the POT folder upper to make it available for all languages. The same for scripts.
I tried "svn checkout http://svn.opensuse.org/viewvc/opensuse-doc/trunk/documents/distribution/en/ " ,but get error info:svn: E175011: Unable to connect to a repository at URL 'https://svn.opensuse.org/viewvc/opensuse-doc/trunk/documents/distribution/en'.
Is there something wrong?
Bad adress. For SVN checkout, use: svn checkouthttps://svn.opensuse.org/svn/opensuse-doc/trunk/documents/distribution/en Regards, Guillaume
Regards,
flashbang
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On Fri, 05 Oct 2012 18:47:08 +0200 Guillaume Gardet wrote: Hi,
Le 05/10/2012 18:29, Flashbang a écrit :
于 2012年10月05日 23:34, Guillaume Gardet 写道:
Le 05/10/2012 17:30, Luiz Fernando Ranghetti a écrit :
2012/10/5 Guillaume Gardet <guillaume.gardet@free.fr>:
Hi,
Le 05/10/2012 16:46, Luiz Fernando Ranghetti a écrit :
2012/10/5 Flashbang <flerxu@gmail.com>:
If needed we could move the POT folder out from FR so that all languages have access to it.
sounds very good!
Glad to get replys. I think I have learned about what you said.I have two questions:How to generate xml to PO files and what is the difference between PO and POT file.
POT is a PO Template. More information here: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Localization_work_with_po_files
You need to make : * XML => POT : for each file, do : "xml2po --mode=docbook -k -o file.pot file.xml" (replacing file.pot and file.xml with the right names) * POT => PO : ** Create PO if it does not exist: "msginit --no-translator --locale=$lang --input=file.pot --output-file=file.$lang.po" (replacing $lang with your language code) ** Update PO if it already exist: "msgmerge --previous --update file.po file.pot"
You can do it manually, or use the scripts I made. (Have a look in FR folder).
If others are OK, I can move the POT folder upper to make it available for all languages. The same for scripts.
if there is anything the SUSE documentation team can do to make things easier for you, just let us know. I am not sure if such a thing is possible, but it would probably be of a lot of help to have an SVN hook that automatically creates a pod file (although I fear this is not possible, it sounds like it is something worth looking into). jw: I always forget this: How to encrypt the password so you can use it to create an svn account for flashback? flashback: In order top get write access to our SVN we need a login and an encrypted password from you (you can freely choose both). jw will provide the command needed to encrypt the password. -- Regards Frank Frank Sundermeyer, Technical Writer, Documentation SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0, Fax: +49-911-7417755; http://www.opensuse.org/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) "Reality is always controlled by the people who are most insane" Dogbert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-doc+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-doc+owner@opensuse.org
于 2012年10月06日 04:04, Frank Sundermeyer 写道:
On Fri, 05 Oct 2012 18:47:08 +0200 Guillaume Gardet wrote:
Hi,
Le 05/10/2012 18:29, Flashbang a écrit :
于 2012年10月05日 23:34, Guillaume Gardet 写道:
Le 05/10/2012 17:30, Luiz Fernando Ranghetti a écrit :
2012/10/5 Guillaume Gardet <guillaume.gardet@free.fr>:
Hi,
Le 05/10/2012 16:46, Luiz Fernando Ranghetti a écrit : > 2012/10/5 Flashbang <flerxu@gmail.com>:
If needed we could move the POT folder out from FR so that all languages have access to it.
sounds very good!
Glad to get replys. I think I have learned about what you said.I have two questions:How to generate xml to PO files and what is the difference between PO and POT file.
POT is a PO Template. More information here: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Localization_work_with_po_files
You need to make : * XML => POT : for each file, do : "xml2po --mode=docbook -k -o file.pot file.xml" (replacing file.pot and file.xml with the right names) * POT => PO : ** Create PO if it does not exist: "msginit --no-translator --locale=$lang --input=file.pot --output-file=file.$lang.po" (replacing $lang with your language code) ** Update PO if it already exist: "msgmerge --previous --update file.po file.pot"
You can do it manually, or use the scripts I made. (Have a look in FR folder).
If others are OK, I can move the POT folder upper to make it available for all languages. The same for scripts.
if there is anything the SUSE documentation team can do to make things easier for you, just let us know.
I am not sure if such a thing is possible, but it would probably be of a lot of help to have an SVN hook that automatically creates a pod file (although I fear this is not possible, it sounds like it is something worth looking into).
jw: I always forget this: How to encrypt the password so you can use it to create an svn account for flashback?
flashback: In order top get write access to our SVN we need a login and an encrypted password from you (you can freely choose both). jw will provide the command needed to encrypt the password.
Hi, Being new to svn and document-translation, I have to be some clever with these tools .It will be done in a day or two and then I will get to work. Regards, flashbang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-doc+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-doc+owner@opensuse.org
于 2012年10月06日 00:47, Guillaume Gardet 写道:
Le 05/10/2012 18:29, Flashbang a écrit :
于 2012年10月05日 23:34, Guillaume Gardet 写道:
Le 05/10/2012 17:30, Luiz Fernando Ranghetti a écrit :
2012/10/5 Guillaume Gardet <guillaume.gardet@free.fr>:
Hi,
Le 05/10/2012 16:46, Luiz Fernando Ranghetti a écrit :
2012/10/5 Flashbang <flerxu@gmail.com>: > I want to translate the manual into a Chinese version , but the wiki > page " Documentation Contribute " gets me dizzy for it tells little > about how . Anyone could help me ? Thanks! > Hi,
The 'official' workflow to translate the documentation manual is to translate the 'en' xml files on the openSUSE SVN
http://svn.opensuse.org/viewvc/opensuse-doc/trunk/documents/distribution/
-> for visualization
Or if you are not comfortable translating xml files and prefer .po files I have a 'not official' server with .po files managed at www.vertaal.com.ar
In any way, its a huge task ;-)
I'm thinking that maybe we can create a task for Google Code-In to joint and automatizate these two forms of translating, what do you guys think?
French (fr) use POT/PO files with some script in openSUSE SVN: http://svn.opensuse.org/viewvc/opensuse-doc/trunk/documents/distribution/fr/
We generate POT files from english XML, then create/update french PO files, then translate those PO files, then generate translated XML files from french PO files and english XML files and finally generate HTML or PDF files from translated xml files.
If needed we could move the POT folder out from FR so that all languages have access to it.
If you have any comments or questions, please ask.
Guillaume Hi,
I think it's a great and clean solution, this way I can shut down my 'non-official' solution and move the files to openSUSE svn (of course after contact the other teams that use it).
How to you handle the po2xml for non 100% translated files (in xml2pot I use it has to be 100% translated). The xml2po you use leave the untranslated string in english? (this is a good think)
Yes, xml2po leave non translated strings in english, that's all.
Guillaume
Regards,
Luiz
Hi,
Glad to get replys. I think I have learned about what you said.I have two questions:How to generate xml to PO files and what is the difference between PO and POT file.
POT is a PO Template. More information here: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Localization_work_with_po_files
You need to make : * XML => POT : for each file, do : "xml2po --mode=docbook -k -o file.pot file.xml" (replacing file.pot and file.xml with the right names) * POT => PO : ** Create PO if it does not exist: "msginit --no-translator --locale=$lang --input=file.pot --output-file=file.$lang.po" (replacing $lang with your language code) ** Update PO if it already exist: "msgmerge --previous --update file.po file.pot"
You can do it manually, or use the scripts I made. (Have a look in FR folder).
If others are OK, I can move the POT folder upper to make it available for all languages. The same for scripts.
I tried "svn checkout http://svn.opensuse.org/viewvc/opensuse-doc/trunk/documents/distribution/en/
" ,but get error info:svn: E175011: Unable to connect to a repository at URL 'https://svn.opensuse.org/viewvc/opensuse-doc/trunk/documents/distribution/en'.
Is there something wrong?
Bad adress. For SVN checkout, use:
svn checkouthttps://svn.opensuse.org/svn/opensuse-doc/trunk/documents/distribution/en
Regards,
Guillaume
Regards,
flashbang
Hi, Thanks to your scripts, I have successfully generated pot and po files from English xml files. I am now learning the format of pot and po files,trying translating tools such as lokalize and poEdit . Regards, flashbang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-doc+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-doc+owner@opensuse.org
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